Re: Re[4]: [Haskell-cafe] In-place modification

On 15/07/07, Hugh Perkins wrote:

On 7/15/07, Sebastian Sylvan wrote:

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I thought the point wasn't to compare programmer's creativity, but to compare languages?

Sebastian, you cant directly compare languages, you can only compare the results of a pairing between developers and those languages.

Sure you can. Keep the programmer and the algorithm constant, and swap out the languages. Or have multiple programmers collaborating/competing on implementing the same algorithm on both side, converging on an "optimum" for each language, and compare the results (this is what the shootout does). Kudos on managing to completely sidestep the two suggested benchmarks by complaining that one of them isimaginary. Because, you know, your primes program was such a great example of a real-world application. You don't think that multiple agents interacting in a concurrent setting is representative for real programs? It is, and by simplifying it down to the core problem, you can test the "difficult bit" far more easily than if you were to require everyone to write a full-on telecom operatings sytem, or any other application that's concurrent in the same style, for each language you want to compare. -- Sebastian Sylvan +44(0)7857-300802 UIN: 44640862