
Hi,
Just a note, Click & Pledge actually does have an online API and forms
solution we could use. In the interest of making end-users feel more
comfortable, it would probably be worth setting up our own donation
form, on-site, and directing people there to make donations. I can
understand the hesitation when the donation page looks retro and has a
few bugs, is off site, and not controlled directly by us.
And then, hopefully in the future we can extend this support to other
payment processors (e.g. such as Stripe), which would allow further
donation methods (such as Bitcoin). Having our own donation form would
make any transitional process like this, or adding new payment
methods, much easier.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Adam Foltzer
Hi Pedro,
Thanks for taking the time to check out the donation page, and for raising these questions. Haskell.org is an associated project of Software in the Public Interest (SPI), which allows donations to be tax-exempt in many jurisdictions. Unfortunately that means the form of the donation page is out of our control (we've previously tried unsuccessfully to get them to accept other forms of payment such as PayPal and BitPay). I can say that I've used clickandpledge several times without problems, but that doesn't make the page look any better.
I'd recommend checking out the donations page for Software in the Public interest for more information on their donation methods [1]. There is another online credit card processor, but the security situation on that page appears to be worse than the clickandpledge page (RC4!). There is an alternative that allows PayPal (be sure to add a designation of "Haskell.org"), but I have not personally tried this option [2].
We'll work to put more pressure on SPI to improve their payment options. After all, anything deterring folks from donating is bad for all of the projects they support.
Let me know how else I can help, and thanks again for the report.
Adam
[1]: http://www.spi-inc.org/donations/ [2]: https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/ExpressDonation.aspx?ORGID2=11-3390208&vlrStratCode=z1Ll0BVsKIzXBEdPqkqnXmofB8tJH%2b6meSF7xCrQC90MO9COSWm0Ki1KbRHhwmUT
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:46 AM, José Pedro Magalhães
wrote: I'd like to donate, but I must say I feel slightly doubtful about the donation page (see screenshot). The URL or the page text doesn't really mention Haskell or any details about the donation, the certificate doesn't seem to have Extended Validation, the labels for the steps 1..5 are missing, the T&C is empty... all in all, it doesn't look like a page where I want to enter my credit card details.
So, I guess I have two questions:
1) Is this really safe, and will my money go to haskell.org? 2) Can't we come up with a more trustworthy-looking donation website?
Thanks, Pedro
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Adam Foltzer
wrote: Dear Haskellers,
HaskellWiki, Hackage, Hoogle, and all the other Haskell.org sites we depend on are hosted with funds donated by you, the Haskell community. As many of us are in tax jurisdictions where December 31st is a deadline for charitable giving, I’d like to remind you that donations to support these activities are tax-deductible. You can donate online right now at https://co.clickandpledge.com/advanced/default.aspx?wid=69561.
Last year was the first time we were able to seek your help while offering tax relief, and you came through: we raised nearly $900 in the span of a few days! This year, with almost three weeks left before the end of the year, I'd love to see us double that.
It has been quite a year for Haskell.org: we migrated of most of our infrastructure, including Hackage, to Rackspace in order to improve reliability. We implemented new proxying to improve speed and performance, and improved the documentation and standardization of our server administration practices. Many of these accomplishments and much else are detailed by Austin Seipp at the new Haskell.org infrastructure blog at https://blog.haskell.org/post/the_new_haskell_org/. Let's keep the momentum going in 2015!
Thank you and best wishes for a happy new year, Adam Foltzer & The Haskell.org Committee
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