Hello, I recently joined Haskell group and wanted to share a few points. First, I came to Haskell cafe from google groups (groups.google.com -> search for Haskell). Two groups are listed: fa.haskell and haskell-cafe. I became a "member" of Haskell Cafe via the google groups interface (the operation was successful according to google). When I posted a message, I got an automated email (within a few seconds, so I think there was no human moderation): You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at haskell-cafe-owner@haskell.org. I wrote to the email address mentioned and didn't get any response. Funny thing is, google reports that my post was successful, and my post was "visible" on google groups even after I signed out from my google account. I next wrote to the group owner, again from the google groups interface (there is an option to "send email to the owner"). No response here as well. I then went to Haskell.org -> Mailing lists and saw there are atleast three lists of immediate relevance, including one for beginners. The website also describes the posting guidelines and other information. Very useful. I would have stuck to asking questions on the beginner's group if I had known earlier.. Can I ask a couple of changes be done to help others like me? a. In google groups -> https://groups.google.com/group/haskell-cafe/about -> add a link to the haskell.org -> Mailing lists for more info. b. Let users join from google groups interface, or if this is not possible, mention that in the "about" page c. Change the contents of the reject email (reproduced above) to include the following: "If you want to subscribe to the Haskell Cafe mailing list, please visit http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe" Aside: the Haskell Cafe mailing list page (at http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe) has a dead link at the bottom of the page. The "Overview of all haskell.org mailing lists" points to http://www.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo (404 error) instead of http://haskell.org/mailman/listinfo. Thanks! Warm regards, Karthick