On 17 mrt 2009, at 15:24, Heinrich Apfelmus wrote:
Eelco Lempsink wrote:
I updated a couple of logo versions and ungrouped and regrouped the (former) number 31. Other than that, there was nothing standing in the way of the voting to begin imho, so I started up the competition.
Thanks for organizing this, finally I can choose ... Oh my god! How am I supposed to make a vote?
I can barely remember 3 of the 113 logos, let alone memorize that #106 is the narwhal. There are lots of very good or just good candidates and I would like to order them all to my liking, but without instant visual feedback on the voting ballot, this is a hopeless task.
Since I have about 10 minutes to spare for voting, I'm just going to pick 5 candidates at random and order these? Actually, I think I prefer to be completely paralyzed by the overwhelming choice instead and not vote at all.
I can imagine that, it's a daunting and (optionally) time consuming task. The burden of democracy ;)
Alternatively, it seems that it's possible to upload rankings from a file. But which format?
Good question. I don't know and couldn't find it in the CIVS FAQ either.
And is there a zip file with the logo proposals so I can try to arrange them via drag&drop in some picture gallery application?
Well, actually, there is, since the files were moved to the main Haskell server after the community server couldn't bear the load anymore (Igloo saving the day! ;). You can get all the files from http://haskell.org/logos/logos.tar.gz . Note that there are probably a couple of files in there that are not in the competition, but artifacts from before (re)grouping some of the logos.
A simple majority vote is clearly inadequate for this vote, but I'm afraid that without assisting technology (instant and visual feedback), the voting process will more or less deteriorate to that due to the difficulty of creating quality input votes.
We'll see. Worst case: nobody votes (with 123 votes at this moment, I don't think that will be the problem). Second worst case: most people don't have/take the time to order a bit, so it turns into a majority vote. That said, you're absolutely right the visual feedback of the voting system is suboptimal. I'd be very interested in seeing a good UI for this sort of task. I imagine it'd be pretty close to printing everything on small pieces of paper and ordering them by hand ;) -- Regards, Eelco Lempsink