Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: What I wish someone had told me...

The (>>=) operation for the state monad can be implemented with no understanding at all. Just watch djinn make the code for it. And djinn doesn't understand the state monad, I promise. :) -- Lennart 2008/10/15 David Leimbach :

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM, John Lato wrote:

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I'd like to thank everyone who replied to my OP, and also perhaps clarify one point. I wasn't trying to be argumentative or negative about any work people have done to make Haskell approachable for OO programmers (or any other programmers, for that matter). I simply wanted to know what others thought about one item that was misleading to me in particular, and to see if others either agreed with me or had similar experiences.

That being said, I know that it's a great deal of work to put together a useful tutorial, and I appreciate every one I read. Especially the monad tutorials, of which it took a half dozen before I got it.

I've read a lot of the Monad tutorials, and I feel like I only get "most of it" to be 100% honest. The State Monad still boggles my mind a little bit. I understand what it's supposed to do and I get the idea about how it works. It's just that when I look at the implementation of >>= for it, I want to crawl into a corner and nibble my fingers. Ok, it's not that bad, but I'll admit I've gone cross-eyed a few times trying to keep all that state in my head about what's REALLY going on there. Perhaps if it were pulled apart step by step I'd have a better understanding. I even tried to implement it once, and failed, however, I never seem to fail to be able to *use* it if someone already implements it for me :-). Kind of like how I know how to operate a car, but I wouldn't trust driving one that I built :-) Dave _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe