On Thursday 12 July 2007, Henning Thielemann wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Jonathan Cast wrote:
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Henning Thielemann wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote:
Andrew Coppin wrote:
Wait... I thought Unicode was still an experimental prototype? Since when does it work in the real world??
That myth is as old as "Haskell is an experimental prototype". "Old" as in "that's an old one".
Windows has been well supporting Unicode since 2000. That is pretty much of the real world.
The only reason you see α as the Greek letter alpha and not scrambled code is that I send it as Unicode and your Windows and Thunderbird also support Unicode and therefore they display it to you properly.
I don't see a greek letter alpha here, but scrambled code in 'pine' here.
There's your problem right there. Get either a terminal or a mail program that knows UTF-8.
I do now understand how "well supported" is meant. If a program doesn't support UTF-8/Unicode, that's not the problem of Unicode, but the problem of the program and its users. If we restrict the range of considered applications to those which support UTF-8 then UTF-8 is globally supported. This leads me to an idea: We declare exclusively Haskell programs being "real programs" then we can safely claim that Haskell is the only language, where real programs can be written in. :-]
The last release of Pine came out 28 September 2005; the last release to add new features came out 10 May 2004; the last time the major version number was bumped was 8 July 1998. I can appreciate clinging to old, comfortable software; it took quite a bit to get me to abandon nmh. But I did it, because that software simply doesn't work on the modern internet. A certain level of seriousness is required when making software choices, after all. And some software is just too old to be taken seriously. Jonathan Cast http://sourceforge.net/projects/fid-core http://sourceforge.net/projects/fid-emacs