Hi, I don't answer specific previous line of mail but just give my opinion :) As with any non-mainstream or young language, there's some kind of lack of libraries/tools/whatever. With the arrival of Java, people get used to have scores of libraries which are 'right there', just 'part' of the java api. (Just google for any "java <class-name>" and 1/ you will find the approriate doc on sun's site and 2/ well, there's no number 2 : the library is already availble on your machine). The problem is the same with other languages. I talk especially of the problem of finding last version of a lib, installing it, finding/reading the doc. But the problem is quite cosmetic. There *are* libs. I don't know Cabal. Maybe such a tool has to enforce or encourage the lib author to package it carefully. Maybe such a tool could be used with a haskell.org-side server app to provide the relevent information to the user and cache the lib if it's author is erased from the map. If the haskell community has the tool, I'm sure every member of the community will use it. (the problem with tool adoption is another point). (I found the idea on the wiki of 'how to start a haskell project' has the same merit.) Well. Don't bother with 'building the community' or 'spread the word'. People on this mailing list have needs which are quite the same than the ones that will make the two 'goals' happen. Or in other words : I see a lot of thread about 'building ...' and 'spread ..' but the fact is : the community is building up itself and does it quite right. Ciao, mt