
In this specific case it is actually pure, because Maybe is pure, but in
the general case it behaves with respect to Applicative (and Monad, which
this appears to be leading up to) as effectful. In this context, an effect
is just whatever behavior is captured by the Applicative/Monad.
"purity" is a bit overloaded:
- purity with respect to an effect of some unspecified kind, as here;
- purity with respect to IO which encapsulates behavior not contained
specifically within your program, the most common meaning in Haskell;
- purity with respect to cross-thread effects in IO/STM;
- purity with respect to mutability in ST;
....
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Steven Leiva
Hi Everyone,
I am reading the 2nd edition of Graham Hutton's Programming in Haskell. I'm not reading the entire book, just the parts of Haskell that I am still iffy on.
Anyway, in Chapter 12, Section 3, Hutton introduces monads.
He start off with the following code:
first
module Expr where data Expr = Val Int | Div Expr Expr eval :: Expr -> Int eval (Val n) = n eval (Div el er) = eval el `div` eval er
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And then he points out that the second clause of *eval* will raise an error if *eval er* evaluates to 0.
One solution is that, instead of using the *div* function, we use a *safeDiv* *:: Int -> Int -> Maybe Int* function, which evaluate to *Nothing* if the divisor is 0. This means that *expr*'s type changes from *eval :: Eval -> Int* to *eval :: Eval -> Maybe Int*, and this means that implementing *eval* becomes very verbose:
second
module Expr where data Expr = Val Int | Div Expr Expr eval :: Expr -> Maybe Int eval (Val n) = Just n eval (Div el er) = case eval el of Nothing -> Nothing Just y -> case eval er of Nothing -> Nothing Just x -> y `safeDiv` x safeDiv :: Int -> Int -> Maybe Int safeDiv x y | y == 0 = Nothing | otherwise = Just (x `div` y)
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In order to make *eval* more concise, we can try the applicative style, where the second clause of the *eval* function becomes *pure safeDiv <*> eval el <*> eval er*. Of course, that doesn't work because *pure safeDiv* has the type *Int -> Int -> Maybe Int*, and what we need is a function of type *Int -> Int -> Int*.
Anyways, this is all setup / context to what Hutton says next:
*The conclusion is that the function eval does not fit the pattern of effectful programming that is capture by applicative functors. The applicative style restricts us to applying pure functions to effectful arguments: eval does not fit this pattern because the function safeDiv that is used to process the resulting values is not a pure function, but may itself fail. *
I am confused by Hutton's use of the word effectful and by his description of safeDiv as "not a pure function". I tried skimming the other sections of the book to see if he provided a definition of this somewhere, but if he did, I couldn't find it. So my question is, in what way does Hutton mean for the reader to understand the words effect / effectful, and why does he describe the function safeDiv as not a pure function?
Thank you!
Steven Leiva 305.528.6038 <(305)%20528-6038> leiva.steven@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenleiva
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