Jon Fairbairn
That's where that particular design falls down. >>= is an ugly symbol in the first place, and while the pun with a lambda in the middle provides some intellectual satisfaction, it doesn't outweigh the fussiness of its shape or the irrelevant associations. I hadn't thought of Amtrak, but it made me think of the flags of Mozambique and South Africa.
I had to google for Amtrak, I didn't know they even existed. I did know that Mozambique and South Africa exist, and googling up their flags I discovered that there are as many resemblances to lambda-bind as there are to the Logo to the Deutsche Bank. Amtrak looks wholly different to me: It doesn't even have straight lines, and it's 3d. :: might be truly Haskell in the sense that everybody else uses plain :, but I don't want Haskell to be associated with squareness, and typing, by itself, is hardly a distinguishing property of Haskell. Furthermore, squares are inherently unstable. Choosing some form of a lambda would be the equivalent of a resistance group choosing a fist as logo: It's been done way to often. Uhh.... we could use -><- . "Implies do-notation." Lambda-bind ISN'T UGLY. I wouldn't only wear it as a t-shirt, I'd even paint it on a spaceship. If it's busy, then too are the Windoze and Sun logos, and if non-business is the sole criterion, we should go with a blank logo, saying "Haskell is the Zen of Programming". I bet there are some design-experienced people involved in all this, there are way too many well-balanced proposals on the logo list for this not to be true: They just didn't out themselves explicitely. Some time ago, my proposal was to do two votes: First choose the logo, then colour scheme and layout with text etc. Right now, doing three seems wiser: The current, first one to weed out a bulk of unpopular logos, the second to choose one of the popular ones after we've made up our minds about what those logos signify, and finally the third, colour/layout vote. Condorcet voting _should_ actually get rid of the need for the second one, but then, as always, people start to notice that they want to go on a train only after it has left the station. Furthermore, some people seem to be of the oppinion that choosing a couple of favourites and moving them to the top involves dealing with 100+ options, which it of course does, but doesn't. Ignorance is Strength. Voting for a slogan would be a good Idea, too. There's the quite old "We put the funk in function", "pure - lazy - fun", "pure - lazy - fun(ctional) "purely functional" (functionally pure? pure functionality?), "being lazy with class", "warm and fuzzy", "bind the real world", "YEEEAAAHH", "Freedom from state", "Just Haskell", and probably a couple of others. Then there's the mascot topic: We could have Monica Monad sitting on a lamda-bind, a sloth hanging from it... It makes the whole thing more alive, and can be left out at small scales and on space ships. Maybe we can bribe Tux with some fish, he's on forced vacation right now. -- (c) this sig last receiving data processing entity. Inspect headers for copyright history. All rights reserved. Copying, hiring, renting, performance and/or quoting of this signature prohibited.