On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:00:20 -0700, you wrote:
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I think people are missing the original poster's point. He's not looking for alternative ways to get from A to B; he's pointing out that a typical approach that one might try to get from A to B is broken. As an aside, this seems to be a prevalent issue, particularly with non-commercial technically-oriented communities. When a newcomer says, "Hey, I tried this [intuitively obvious] way to do something, and it didn't work," the welcoming response is NOT, "Oh, don't do that; do this other [less intuitive] thing instead." The welcoming response is to fix the damn thing so that the intuitive approach works! Steve Schafer Fenestra Technologies Corp. http://www.fenestra.com/