Re: [Haskell-cafe] Market Place for Haskell development teams?

I don't dismiss Haskell in business. I only maintain it's a niche market. There are some domains where the infrastructure in more established languages is minimal, and in such cases, I think Haskell can be more efficient than those languages.

I should note, too, the the agile development momement over the past ten years has had and still does have exactly the same sort of attacks on it, and yet has successfully moved into the mainstream and is well-accepted by many parts of it.

What has moved into mainstream is unfortunately connected chiefly to agile by virtue of the word itself. Agile means more than getting software out the door quickly, a fact many businesses have yet to learn. Regards, John A. De Goes N-Brain, Inc. The Evolution of Collaboration http://www.n-brain.net | 877-376-2724 x 101 On Oct 7, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Curt Sampson wrote:

On 2009-10-02 09:04 -0600 (Fri), John A. De Goes wrote:

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I'm not saying Haskell is unstable. I'm saying that the attitude expressed in the following quote is at odds with the needs of business:

"And as far as something like dealing with a changing language and libraries, the mainstream already has well-established and popular techniques for doing just: agile development."

I don't know how much commercial experience you have, but I've been a founder of two companies, CTO or CEO of several businesses, a "chief architect" in a couple more, and consider myself as much a businessman and manager as a developer.

The attitude you express is certainly common in many businesses, but it's not the only way to run a successful business.

I won't go further here, since this kind of argument generally leads into a, "no, what you do isn't possible" kind of flamewar, but I did want to point this out here, so that others can know that, the attitude John De Goes expresses, while comon, is not the only way busineses look at the world.

I should note, too, the the agile development momement over the past ten years has had and still does have exactly the same sort of attacks on it, and yet has successfully moved into the mainstream and is well-accepted by many parts of it.

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