Re: [Haskell-cafe] Windows Haskell GUI

On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 17:51 -0700, Jason Dagit wrote:

On 7/5/06, Duncan Coutts wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 16:06 -0700, Jason Dagit wrote:

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I can't help with gtk2hs as I haven't tried it yet, but I hear the dev community is much more alive and very helpful. My main concerns with gtk2hs were 1) I need a native look 'n feel

This is a common misconception. Gtk+ uses the windows native theming dlls so look pretty good. See some of our screen shots: http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/gallery/HRay

If you do find any places where it doesn't match the native theme then please report them in the Gtk+ bugzilla.

What about file dialogs? Perhaps it's just GIMP but I thought it was all gtk programs that used the really out-of-place file dialogs on windows (I think gaim uses the same ones). I looked at some of your screenshots. Looks better overall than I remembered.

Yes, you're right. Gtk+ does a native theme but does not use the native dialogues (except for printing). I'm not completely sure of the position of the Gtk+ devs on this one. It's not clear if it's not been done due to lack of time or because there is some technical difficulty or objection to it. See for example: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337093 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337267

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2) ease of distribution with my application.

Is there something specific we could improve here?

I haven't tried this myself; I was going by word of mouth. The testimonial appears here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.haskell.cafe/13378

The note about installing the Gtk+ dlls being very hard is not quite true. There are win32 installers for this stuff at http://gladewin32.sf.net. Indeed, Gtk2Hs relies on these installers. What was being referred to in that post is the win32 builds provided by one of the Gtk+ win32 developers, which indeed are not aimed at end users. They are however a useful resource for developers putting together customised or minimal Gtk+ dll sets to bundle with their application. http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html Duncan