On 2014-11-22 17:56, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Michael:
You are right, but these are minor problems I think, compared with the huge potential advantages.
I can not believe it when a slow immature language like Ruby could take over web development just for one library, Rails and some buzzwords, when a faster, safer language can do it millions of times better. Haskell can revolutionize all the industry simply selling it not as one more language, but as THE meta-language for building EDSLs for each domain problem. some EDSLs so close to the domain problem that can be used by non-programmers.
That lack of vision and effort in the side of the haskell community hurts me. And the lack of interest in this ticket
https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7870
Is a clear display of this lack of interest. it is like the Aristocracy of the Haskell Wondwerland fears to be hijacked by hordes of mediocre DSL villains from the industry, so it is necessary to keep the walls high
Not that I necessarily agree or disagree with what you're saying, but that is a completely useless ticket. It's *way* too open-ended and doesn't seem to have very many specifics about what's the desired feature actually *is*. I submit that you're likely to get a lot more traction if you actually worked to specify *exactly* what's the desired feature is, i.e. *specify* the stripped down algorithm that you want implemented, how it's going to be integrated with user code, how it can be used to improve error reporting for EDSLs, etc. (I believe it's customary to create a Trac Wiki page for any proposed features.)
Haskell is a language dominated by academics that has no interest in the success of Haskell. On the contrary.
Well, the unofficial Haskell motto *is* "Avoid success at all costs", so y'know... :) Regards,