On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Jonathan Cast
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 17:06 -0500, Steve Schafer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:21:57 -0800, you wrote:
Where, in the history of western civilization, has there ever been an engineering discipline whose adherents were permitted to remain ignorant of the basic mathematical terminology and methodology that their enterprise is founded on?
Umm, all of them?
Really. So the engineer who designed the apartment building I'm in at the moment didn't know any physics, thought `tensor' was a scary math term irrelevant to practical, real-world engineering, and will only read books on engineering that replace the other scary technical term `vector' with point-direction-value-thingy? I think I'm going to sleep <snip> It feels like this conversation is going in circles. What I'm taking away from the two very different arguments being made is that
1) math terms have their place when they describe the concept very precisely, e.g. monoid 2) the Haskell docs _don't_ do good enough a job at giving intuition for what math terms mean If we fix #2, then #1 is no longer a problem, yes? For you folks who work on GHC, is it acceptable to open tickets for poor documentation of modules in base? I think leaving the documentation to the tragedy of the commons isn't the best move, but if even a few of us could remember to open tickets when new Haskell'ers complain about something being confusing then it could be on _someone's_ docket. Cheers, Creighton