WebSense doesn't like darcs.haskell.org
My work uses WebSense to filter viewable pages - I don't have an option. I used to be able to get to darcs.haskell.org just fine, but apparently a /hacking directory was added somewhere, so WebSense put it on the naughty list. I put in a request for WebSense to review the site; hopefully it will soon be allowed again. But if not, I'll have to go through lots of red tape, which I'd really like to avoid. I assume/hope this "hacking" is only in the sense of making adjustments to code. Is this right? If there's anything involving DoS attacks, etc, I might never be able to get to it from work again. I get the impression WebSense is relatively widely used. Is anyone else here having similar trouble? Chad
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I assume/hope this "hacking" is only in the sense of making adjustments to code. Is this right? If there's anything involving DoS attacks, etc, I might never be able to get to it from work again.
Yes, darcs.haskell.org won't be hosting DoS attacks ever. Perhaps the problem is with this document: http://darcs.haskell.org/ghc/HACKING There are at least 6 branches of that document, and removing them all would be a fair bit of work. Perhaps you can take a very big clue stick and beat the WebSense developers until they cry? I've had a website be incorrectly marked as a phishing site previously, by Norton, and simply submitting the URL to them using a web form on their site resulted in it getting put back on the safe list after a couple of days. Thanks Neil
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:12 +0000, Chad Scherrer wrote:
My work uses WebSense to filter viewable pages - I don't have an option.
I used to be able to get to darcs.haskell.org just fine, but apparently a /hacking directory was added somewhere, so WebSense put it on the naughty list.
Do you know where? duncan@monk:~$ locate hacking There are some hits in /usr/share/doc but they're not on any of the websites that monk serves. Duncan
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Do you know where?
duncan@monk:~$ locate hacking
try locate HACKING Google has the answer (as always): http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=allinurl:hacking+site:darcs.haskell.org&hl=en&filter=0 Thanks Neil PS. Google trivia: switching the allinurl and site arguments around means it doesn't find anything.
Duncan Coutts
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:12 +0000, Chad Scherrer wrote:
I used to be able to get to darcs.haskell.org just fine, but apparently a /hacking directory was added somewhere, so WebSense put it on the naughty list. Do you know where?
Neil suggested it might be http://darcs.haskell.org/ghc/HACKING but that's been there for a long time, hasn't it? Maybe it's not that a new directory was added, but that WebSense hadn't ever indexed haskell.org before? Chad
My work uses WebSense to filter viewable pages - I don't have an option.
I used to be able to get to darcs.haskell.org just fine, but apparently a /hacking directory was added somewhere, so WebSense put it on the naughty list.
I put in a request for WebSense to review the site; hopefully it will soon be allowed again. But if not, I'll have to go through lots of red tape, which I'd really like to avoid.
I assume/hope this "hacking" is only in the sense of making adjustments to code. Is this right? If there's anything involving DoS attacks, etc, I might never be able to get to it from work again.
I get the impression WebSense is relatively widely used. Is anyone else here having similar trouble? Oh my goodness. Please tell me WebSense isn't _that_ stupid! As if any
Chad Scherrer wrote: person who's serious about actually carrying out cyber attacks would store things in a directory named "hacking"... WTF, no wonder it feels like we're losing when the "good guys" assume the "bad guys" have an intelligence comparable to the average vegetable. Sorry for the outburst, this sort of brain dead "security" just really upsets me. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus．therning＠gmail．com http://therning.org/magnus What if I don't want to obey the laws? Do they throw me in jail with the other bad monads? -- Daveman
--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Magnus Therning
I used to be able to get to darcs.haskell.org just fine, but apparently a /hacking directory was added somewhere, so WebSense put it on the naughty list.
Heh, unbelievable. As if the type of hacker interested in DoD attacks (properly actually called a "cracker," but not a "hacker") would put related files in a directory actually labelled "/hacking." I'm not a hacker in that sense, but if I were, I would call such a directory something innocuous, such as "/misc." Perhaps now we need to consider renaming "Hackage" (http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Hackage)? ;-) Benjamin L. Russell
--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Benjamin L. Russell
I used to be able to get to darcs.haskell.org just fine, but apparently a /hacking directory was added somewhere, so WebSense put it on the naughty list.
Heh, unbelievable. As if the type of hacker interested in DoD attacks....
Sorry, I meant "DoS" (Denial of Service) attacks. That was a typo. Time to reach for that cup of coffee.... Benjamin L. Russell
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