any cloud computing services for running Haskell?

I'm thinking of using cloud computing services for running my CPU-intensive parallel Haskell code, in order to get results faster. Instead of buying a faster computer, I would take advantage of existing services. Note that my budget is small, so I need something that doesn't have a large minimum charge. I'm thinking $10 - 30 per month. Are there any cloud services like that that run Haskell? D

Hey Dennis, I'm not aware of any cloud services that offer Haskell-specific services; however, you should be fine on many mainstream cloud services (AWS, Azure, etc.) as long as you write your program so that it uses multiple threads/CUDA/whatever. There's nothing special about programs that come out of GHC. You may be interested in packaging your program in a Nix environment if you intend to run your program across many different environments. Regards, Andy On 7/16/2017 1:20 PM, Dennis Raddle wrote:
I'm thinking of using cloud computing services for running my CPU-intensive parallel Haskell code, in order to get results faster. Instead of buying a faster computer, I would take advantage of existing services.
Note that my budget is small, so I need something that doesn't have a large minimum charge. I'm thinking $10 - 30 per month.
Are there any cloud services like that that run Haskell? D
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Thanks. I guess I don't know much about cloud services. Will they run a lot of threads in parallel? Or do they run my program on only one CPU and/or use only the number of cores in one processor? That's the point of using them, to run more threads in parallel than I have cores on my MacBook. D

On 17 Jul 2017 06:49, "Dennis Raddle"

I heard about https://www.clever-cloud.com/ providing Haskell app support.
Didn't get to try it out though.
Warm Regards,
- Lyndon
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:57 PM, David Turner
On 17 Jul 2017 06:49, "Dennis Raddle"
wrote: Thanks. I guess I don't know much about cloud services. Will they run a lot of threads in parallel? Or do they run my program on only one CPU and/or use only the number of cores in one processor? That's the point of using them, to run more threads in parallel than I have cores on my MacBook.
Depending on your budget, on AWS you can rent a machine from the miniscule t2.nano all the way up to the 128-core x1.32xlarge, with various tradeoffs on memory vs CPU vs storage vs ... in between. All can run Haskell programs. There's also various options in Haskell for distributing your computation across multiple machines, if that sounds useful.
A good place to start is the pricing page which gives you a good overview of the options.
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
Other cloud providers are available, of course.
Cheers,
D
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check these folks too: https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/ pretty good choice

Neat, I like that they have a Haskell environment.
But, if I go with Google or Amazon, just curious about how I would create
an app with my Mac, as they don't provide a macOS environment. Can I
cross-compile for Windows or Linux on my Mac? Or, should I run a Windows
virtual machine and build my app in that environment? (Not my favorite
choice, as I would end up working in Windows most of the time.)
D
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Lyndon Maydwell
I heard about https://www.clever-cloud.com/ providing Haskell app support.
Didn't get to try it out though.
Warm Regards,
- Lyndon
On 17 Jul 2017 06:49, "Dennis Raddle"
wrote: Thanks. I guess I don't know much about cloud services. Will they run a lot of threads in parallel? Or do they run my program on only one CPU and/or use only the number of cores in one processor? That's the point of using
to run more threads in parallel than I have cores on my MacBook.
Depending on your budget, on AWS you can rent a machine from the miniscule t2.nano all the way up to the 128-core x1.32xlarge, with various
on memory vs CPU vs storage vs ... in between. All can run Haskell
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:57 PM, David Turner
wrote: them, tradeoffs programs. There's also various options in Haskell for distributing your computation across multiple machines, if that sounds useful.
A good place to start is the pricing page which gives you a good overview of the options.
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
Other cloud providers are available, of course.
Cheers,
D
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On Jul 18, 2017 22:38, "Dennis Raddle"
I heard about https://www.clever-cloud.com/ providing Haskell app support.
Didn't get to try it out though.
Warm Regards,
- Lyndon
On 17 Jul 2017 06:49, "Dennis Raddle"
wrote: Thanks. I guess I don't know much about cloud services. Will they run a lot of threads in parallel? Or do they run my program on only one CPU and/or use only the number of cores in one processor? That's the point of using
to run more threads in parallel than I have cores on my MacBook.
Depending on your budget, on AWS you can rent a machine from the miniscule t2.nano all the way up to the 128-core x1.32xlarge, with various
on memory vs CPU vs storage vs ... in between. All can run Haskell
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:57 PM, David Turner
wrote: them, tradeoffs programs. There's also various options in Haskell for distributing your computation across multiple machines, if that sounds useful.
A good place to start is the pricing page which gives you a good overview of the options.
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
Other cloud providers are available, of course.
Cheers,
D
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Why not do your production builds and testing on a virtual machine from
your cloud provider, configured from the same OS, image, etc. as your
production host? Anything else seems like asking for trouble.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Dennis Raddle
Neat, I like that they have a Haskell environment.
But, if I go with Google or Amazon, just curious about how I would create an app with my Mac, as they don't provide a macOS environment. Can I cross-compile for Windows or Linux on my Mac? Or, should I run a Windows virtual machine and build my app in that environment? (Not my favorite choice, as I would end up working in Windows most of the time.)
D
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Lyndon Maydwell
wrote: I heard about https://www.clever-cloud.com/ providing Haskell app support.
Didn't get to try it out though.
Warm Regards,
- Lyndon
On 17 Jul 2017 06:49, "Dennis Raddle"
wrote: Thanks. I guess I don't know much about cloud services. Will they run a lot of threads in parallel? Or do they run my program on only one CPU and/or use only the number of cores in one processor? That's the point of using
to run more threads in parallel than I have cores on my MacBook.
Depending on your budget, on AWS you can rent a machine from the miniscule t2.nano all the way up to the 128-core x1.32xlarge, with various
on memory vs CPU vs storage vs ... in between. All can run Haskell
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:57 PM, David Turner
wrote: them, tradeoffs programs. There's also various options in Haskell for distributing your computation across multiple machines, if that sounds useful.
A good place to start is the pricing page which gives you a good overview of the options.
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
Other cloud providers are available, of course.
Cheers,
D
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The performance might not be what you're looking for (there are some more
performant configurations but they might not be cost effective), but it's
pretty easy to get a stack project running on Heroku - this script took ~3
minutes (dominated by installing GHC on the first push) to get a simple
worker running in the cloud:
https://gist.github.com/mfine/b3dd21cfd03d1775084780f955cdc784#gistcomment-2...
Sample run:
~ $ stack new worker
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mfine/b3dd21cfd03d1775084780f955cdc784/ra...
Downloading template
"https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mfine/b3dd21cfd03d1775084780f955cdc784/ra..."
to create project "worker" in worker/ ...
Looking for .cabal or package.yaml files to use to init the project.
Using cabal packages:
- worker/worker.cabal
Selecting the best among 10 snapshots...
* Matches lts-8.23
Selected resolver: lts-8.23
Initialising configuration using resolver: lts-8.23
Total number of user packages considered: 1
Writing configuration to file: worker/stack.yaml
All done.~ $~ $ cd worker~/worker $~/worker $ git init .
Initialized empty Git repository in ~/worker/.git/~/worker $~/worker $
git add .~/worker $~/worker $ git commit -m "initial"
[master (root-commit) a19a152] initial
4 files changed, 84 insertions(+)
create mode 100644 Procfile
create mode 100644 main.hs
create mode 100644 stack.yaml
create mode 100644 worker.cabal~/worker $~/worker $ heroku create
--buildpack https://github.com/mfine/heroku-buildpack-stack.git
Creating app... done, ⬢ serene-earth-29336
Setting buildpack to
https://github.com/mfine/heroku-buildpack-stack.git...
donehttps://serene-earth-29336.herokuapp.com/ |
https://git.heroku.com/serene-earth-29336.git~/worker $~/worker $ git
push heroku master
Counting objects: 6, done.
Delta compression using up to 4 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (5/5), done.
Writing objects: 100% (6/6), 1.61 KiB | 0 bytes/s, done.
Total 6 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Compressing source files... done.
remote: Building source:
remote:
remote: -----> Haskell app detected
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Starting...
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Exporting config vars
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Installing libgmp-6.0.0a into cache
remote: ########################################################################
100.0%
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Restoring 6.0.0a files from cache
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Downloading stack-1.4.0
remote: ########################################################################
100.0%
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:21 Restoring stack-1.4.0
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:21 Substituting stack vars
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:21 Running stack
remote: Downloading lts-8.23 build plan ...
remote: Downloaded lts-8.23 build plan.
remote: Updating package index Hackage (mirrored at
https://s3.amazonaws.com/hackage.fpcomplete.com/) ...
remote: Selected mirror https://s3.amazonaws.com/hackage.fpcomplete.com/
remote: Downloading root
remote: Selected mirror https://s3.amazonaws.com/hackage.fpcomplete.com/
remote: Downloading timestamp
remote: Downloading snapshot
remote: Downloading mirrors
remote: Cannot update index (no local copy)
remote: Downloading index
remote: Updated package list downloaded
remote: Populating index cache ...
remote: Populated index cache.
remote: Preparing to install GHC to an isolated location.
remote: This will not interfere with any system-level installation.
remote: Preparing to download ghc-8.0.2 ...
remote: ghc-8.0.2: download has begun
remote: ghc-8.0.2: 27.84 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 25.89%) downloaded...
remote: ghc-8.0.2: 54.10 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 50.31%) downloaded...
remote: ghc-8.0.2: 77.99 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 72.52%) downloaded...
remote: ghc-8.0.2: 101.87 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 94.72%) downloaded...
remote: ghc-8.0.2: 107.55 MiB / 107.55 MiB (100.00%) downloaded...
remote: Downloaded ghc-8.0.2.
remote: Unpacking GHC into
/app/tmp/cache/.stack/programs/x86_64-linux/ghc-8.0.2.temp/ ...
remote: Configuring GHC ...
remote: Installing GHC ...
remote: Installed GHC.
remote: stack will use a sandboxed GHC it installed
remote: For more information on paths, see 'stack path' and 'stack exec env'
remote: To use this GHC and packages outside of a project, consider using:
remote: stack ghc, stack ghci, stack runghc, or stack exec
remote: [1 of 2] Compiling Main (
/app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-mPHDZzAJ.hs,
/app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-mPHDZzAJ.o )
remote: [2 of 2] Compiling StackSetupShim (
/app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-shim-mPHDZzAJ.hs,
/app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-shim-mPHDZzAJ.o )
remote: Linking
/app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-cache/x86_64-linux/tmp-Cabal-simple_mPHDZzAJ_1.24.2.0_ghc-8.0.2
...
remote: worker-0.1.0.0: configure (exe)
remote: Configuring worker-0.1.0.0...
remote: worker-0.1.0.0: build (exe)
remote: Preprocessing executable 'worker' for worker-0.1.0.0...
remote: [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( main.hs,
.stack-work/dist/x86_64-linux/Cabal-1.24.2.0/build/worker/worker-tmp/Main.o
)
remote: Linking
.stack-work/dist/x86_64-linux/Cabal-1.24.2.0/build/worker/worker ...
remote: worker-0.1.0.0: copy/register
remote: Installing executable(s) in
remote: /app/.stack-work/install/x86_64-linux/lts-8.23/8.0.2/bin
remote: Copying from
/app/.stack-work/install/x86_64-linux/lts-8.23/8.0.2/bin/worker to
/app/.local/bin/worker
remote:
remote: Copied executables to /app/.local/bin:
remote: - worker
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_03:01:26 Making stack binaries available
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_03:01:26 Caching .stack-work
remote: -----> 2017-07-19_03:01:26 Finished!
remote: -----> Discovering process types
remote: Procfile declares types -> worker
remote:
remote: -----> Compressing...
remote: Done: 1.5M
remote: -----> Launching...
remote: Released v3
remote: https://serene-earth-29336.herokuapp.com/ deployed to Heroku
remote:
remote: Verifying deploy... done.
To https://git.heroku.com/serene-earth-29336.git
* [new branch] master -> master~/worker $~/worker $ heroku
ps:scale worker+1
Scaling dynos... done, now running worker at 1:Free~/worker $~/worker
$ heroku logs -t
2017-07-19T03:07:19.755903+00:00 heroku[worker.1]: Starting process
with command `worker`
2017-07-19T03:07:20.553903+00:00 heroku[worker.1]: State changed from
starting to up
2017-07-19T03:07:22.393957+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello!
2017-07-19T03:07:23.397139+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello!
2017-07-19T03:07:24.398803+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello!
2017-07-19T03:07:25.400211+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello!
2017-07-19T03:07:26.405199+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello!
Mark
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Dennis Raddle
I'm thinking of using cloud computing services for running my CPU-intensive parallel Haskell code, in order to get results faster. Instead of buying a faster computer, I would take advantage of existing services.
Note that my budget is small, so I need something that doesn't have a large minimum charge. I'm thinking $10 - 30 per month.
Are there any cloud services like that that run Haskell? D
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Some links I like to to add to the thread:
AWS lambda
https://github.com/abailly/aws-lambda-haskell
Google Cloud functions might be an option using GHCJS
Heroku has been around for a long time:
https://www.christopherbiscardi.com/2014/2/2/deploy-haskells-snap-on-heroku/
Greetings,
Bram
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:25 AM, Mark Fine
The performance might not be what you're looking for (there are some more performant configurations but they might not be cost effective), but it's pretty easy to get a stack project running on Heroku - this script took ~3 minutes (dominated by installing GHC on the first push) to get a simple worker running in the cloud:
https://gist.github.com/mfine/b3dd21cfd03d1775084780f955cdc784#gistcomment-2...
Sample run:
~ $ stack new worker https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mfine/b3dd21cfd03d1775084780f955cdc784/ra... Downloading template "https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mfine/b3dd21cfd03d1775084780f955cdc784/ra..." to create project "worker" in worker/ ... Looking for .cabal or package.yaml files to use to init the project. Using cabal packages: - worker/worker.cabal
Selecting the best among 10 snapshots...
* Matches lts-8.23
Selected resolver: lts-8.23 Initialising configuration using resolver: lts-8.23 Total number of user packages considered: 1 Writing configuration to file: worker/stack.yaml All done. ~ $ ~ $ cd worker ~/worker $ ~/worker $ git init . Initialized empty Git repository in ~/worker/.git/ ~/worker $ ~/worker $ git add . ~/worker $ ~/worker $ git commit -m "initial" [master (root-commit) a19a152] initial 4 files changed, 84 insertions(+) create mode 100644 Procfile create mode 100644 main.hs create mode 100644 stack.yaml create mode 100644 worker.cabal ~/worker $ ~/worker $ heroku create --buildpack https://github.com/mfine/heroku-buildpack-stack.git Creating app... done, ⬢ serene-earth-29336 Setting buildpack to https://github.com/mfine/heroku-buildpack-stack.git... done https://serene-earth-29336.herokuapp.com/ | https://git.heroku.com/serene-earth-29336.git ~/worker $ ~/worker $ git push heroku master Counting objects: 6, done. Delta compression using up to 4 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (5/5), done. Writing objects: 100% (6/6), 1.61 KiB | 0 bytes/s, done. Total 6 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) remote: Compressing source files... done. remote: Building source: remote: remote: -----> Haskell app detected remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Starting... remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Exporting config vars remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Installing libgmp-6.0.0a into cache remote: ######################################################################## 100.0% remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Restoring 6.0.0a files from cache remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:20 Downloading stack-1.4.0 remote: ######################################################################## 100.0% remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:21 Restoring stack-1.4.0 remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:21 Substituting stack vars remote: -----> 2017-07-19_02:58:21 Running stack remote: Downloading lts-8.23 build plan ... remote: Downloaded lts-8.23 build plan. remote: Updating package index Hackage (mirrored at https://s3.amazonaws.com/hackage.fpcomplete.com/) ... remote: Selected mirror https://s3.amazonaws.com/hackage.fpcomplete.com/ remote: Downloading root remote: Selected mirror https://s3.amazonaws.com/hackage.fpcomplete.com/ remote: Downloading timestamp remote: Downloading snapshot remote: Downloading mirrors remote: Cannot update index (no local copy) remote: Downloading index remote: Updated package list downloaded remote: Populating index cache ... remote: Populated index cache. remote: Preparing to install GHC to an isolated location. remote: This will not interfere with any system-level installation. remote: Preparing to download ghc-8.0.2 ... remote: ghc-8.0.2: download has begun remote: ghc-8.0.2: 27.84 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 25.89%) downloaded... remote: ghc-8.0.2: 54.10 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 50.31%) downloaded... remote: ghc-8.0.2: 77.99 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 72.52%) downloaded... remote: ghc-8.0.2: 101.87 MiB / 107.55 MiB ( 94.72%) downloaded... remote: ghc-8.0.2: 107.55 MiB / 107.55 MiB (100.00%) downloaded... remote: Downloaded ghc-8.0.2. remote: Unpacking GHC into /app/tmp/cache/.stack/programs/x86_64-linux/ghc-8.0.2.temp/ ... remote: Configuring GHC ... remote: Installing GHC ... remote: Installed GHC. remote: stack will use a sandboxed GHC it installed remote: For more information on paths, see 'stack path' and 'stack exec env' remote: To use this GHC and packages outside of a project, consider using: remote: stack ghc, stack ghci, stack runghc, or stack exec remote: [1 of 2] Compiling Main ( /app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-mPHDZzAJ.hs, /app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-mPHDZzAJ.o ) remote: [2 of 2] Compiling StackSetupShim ( /app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-shim-mPHDZzAJ.hs, /app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-src/setup-shim-mPHDZzAJ.o ) remote: Linking /app/tmp/cache/.stack/setup-exe-cache/x86_64-linux/tmp-Cabal-simple_mPHDZzAJ_1.24.2.0_ghc-8.0.2 ... remote: worker-0.1.0.0: configure (exe) remote: Configuring worker-0.1.0.0... remote: worker-0.1.0.0: build (exe) remote: Preprocessing executable 'worker' for worker-0.1.0.0... remote: [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( main.hs, .stack-work/dist/x86_64-linux/Cabal-1.24.2.0/build/worker/worker-tmp/Main.o ) remote: Linking .stack-work/dist/x86_64-linux/Cabal-1.24.2.0/build/worker/worker ... remote: worker-0.1.0.0: copy/register remote: Installing executable(s) in remote: /app/.stack-work/install/x86_64-linux/lts-8.23/8.0.2/bin remote: Copying from /app/.stack-work/install/x86_64-linux/lts-8.23/8.0.2/bin/worker to /app/.local/bin/worker remote: remote: Copied executables to /app/.local/bin: remote: - worker remote: -----> 2017-07-19_03:01:26 Making stack binaries available remote: -----> 2017-07-19_03:01:26 Caching .stack-work remote: -----> 2017-07-19_03:01:26 Finished! remote: -----> Discovering process types remote: Procfile declares types -> worker remote: remote: -----> Compressing... remote: Done: 1.5M remote: -----> Launching... remote: Released v3 remote: https://serene-earth-29336.herokuapp.com/ deployed to Heroku remote: remote: Verifying deploy... done. To https://git.heroku.com/serene-earth-29336.git * [new branch] master -> master ~/worker $ ~/worker $ heroku ps:scale worker+1 Scaling dynos... done, now running worker at 1:Free ~/worker $ ~/worker $ heroku logs -t 2017-07-19T03:07:19.755903+00:00 heroku[worker.1]: Starting process with command `worker` 2017-07-19T03:07:20.553903+00:00 heroku[worker.1]: State changed from starting to up 2017-07-19T03:07:22.393957+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello! 2017-07-19T03:07:23.397139+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello! 2017-07-19T03:07:24.398803+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello! 2017-07-19T03:07:25.400211+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello! 2017-07-19T03:07:26.405199+00:00 app[worker.1]: Hello!
Mark
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Dennis Raddle
wrote: I'm thinking of using cloud computing services for running my CPU-intensive parallel Haskell code, in order to get results faster. Instead of buying a faster computer, I would take advantage of existing services.
Note that my budget is small, so I need something that doesn't have a large minimum charge. I'm thinking $10 - 30 per month.
Are there any cloud services like that that run Haskell? D
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participants (9)
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Bram Neijt
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Chris Smith
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Damian
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David Turner
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Dennis Raddle
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Imants Cekusins
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Lyndon Maydwell
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Mark Fine
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Sang Hak (Andy) Chun