
Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why should all those northerners have all the fun)? I'm thinking about organising it to be in the July break between university semesters. There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but nothing seems to have eventuated out of it. In terms of projects, here are some ideas: * A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex Mason is interested in this) * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.; this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff) * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along * LLVM if David Terei comes So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of: 1) Who's interested 2) What dates are good 3) What projects people want to work on 4) Where we can host this Let's get the ball rolling! -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

On 16/03/2010, at 4:28 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex Mason is interested in this) * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.; this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff) * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along * LLVM if David Terei comes
I'd suggest focusing on core Haskell infrastructure, like compilers and tools, rather than individual libraries -- though it all depends on who wants to come along.
So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of: 1) Who's interested 2) What dates are good 3) What projects people want to work on 4) Where we can host this
You'll also want to consider how a proposed OzHaskell might align and/or combine with other events such as SAPLING[1] and fp-syd[2]. There is also the ICFP programming contest in a few months that many people will be interested in... Hosting is not a problem. If people want to come to Sydney then I'm sure we can organise a room at UNSW. Ben. [1] http://plrg.ics.mq.edu.au/projects/show/sapling [2] http://groups.google.com/group/fp-syd [3] http://www.icfpconference.org/contest.html

* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex Mason is interested in this) * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.; this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff) * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along * LLVM if David Terei comes
I'd suggest focusing on core Haskell infrastructure, like compilers and tools, rather than individual libraries -- though it all depends on who wants to come along.
I'm not interested too much in organising what we will get done until people get there. We'll spend an hour or two discussing which projects people would like to work on, and then probably split off into groups of like minded people. The projects mentioned above are just ones that Ivan and I could think of, to give others ideas of the sorts of things they could work on. If people have new projects they want to start and have input from others on design and coding, then that's fine by me. If they want to hack GHC and make it twice as fast, then they're more than encouraged to do so! Basically, we're just aiming to get a bunch of like minded people together, who want to hack on projects with some other people, possibly with the authors of the projects (for example, I might want help to work on the Accelerate library that Manuel, Gabriele and Sean have been working on, and being able to talk to them directly to find out how the code is all laid out and organised would be much much easier than trying to do the same thing over IRC for example.)
So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of: 1) Who's interested 2) What dates are good 3) What projects people want to work on 4) Where we can host this
You'll also want to consider how a proposed OzHaskell might align and/or combine with other events such as SAPLING[1] and fp-syd[2]. There is also the ICFP programming contest in a few months that many people will be interested in...
The more people we can get in touch with, the better, we'd like to hear from all these groups, if for no better reason than to get the word out that such a thing might be happening... maybe, and to help gauge interest. The more people that know, the more pressure we can bring upon ourselves to get something organised. I was planning on forwarding this onto the FP-Syd list, but maybe I could ask you to do that Ben? These mailing list things are before my time, and I wouldn't have a clue what to do -_-
Hosting is not a problem. If people want to come to Sydney then I'm sure we can organise a room at UNSW.
We were kind of hoping that you or Manuel would say something like that ;) Not sure what more to say, other than if you're in Australia, and like Haskell, we'd really _really_ love to meet you. Cheers, -- Alex Mason
Ben.
[1] http://plrg.ics.mq.edu.au/projects/show/sapling [2] http://groups.google.com/group/fp-syd [3] http://www.icfpconference.org/contest.html
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On 16/03/2010, at 10:45 PM, Alex Mason wrote:
I'd suggest focusing on core Haskell infrastructure, like compilers and tools, rather than individual libraries -- though it all depends on who wants to come along.
Basically, we're just aiming to get a bunch of like minded people together, who want to hack on projects with some other people, possibly with the authors of the projects (for example, I might want help to work on the Accelerate library that Manuel, Gabriele and Sean have been working on, and being able to talk to them directly to find out how the code is all laid out and organised would be much much easier than trying to do the same thing over IRC for example.)
I meant that with these systems there's more of a chance that people have past experience with them, so you can hit the ground running, but it's only a suggestion.
You'll also want to consider how a proposed OzHaskell might align and/or combine with other events such as SAPLING[1] and fp-syd[2]. There is also the ICFP programming contest in a few months that many people will be interested in...
The more people we can get in touch with, the better, we'd like to hear from all these groups, if for no better reason than to get the word out that such a thing might be happening... maybe, and to help gauge interest. The more people that know, the more pressure we can bring upon ourselves to get something organised.
I was planning on forwarding this onto the FP-Syd list, but maybe I could ask you to do that Ben? These mailing list things are before my time, and I wouldn't have a clue what to do -_-
You seem to have worked out haskell-cafe, so it can't be that hard! Ben.

Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why should all those northerners have all the fun)?
Agreed!
I'm thinking about organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.
I'm a working programmer who has no idea when the university semesters start and end. Please don't leave me out :-).
* LLVM if David Terei comes
I'm definitely interested in that one. I spent some time last night starting to package LLVM and its dependencies for Debian.
So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of: 1) Who's interested 2) What dates are good
As the father of a school age child, I have some rather high demands on my 4 weeks of annual leave. For me, it would be advantageous if this could be arranged to overlap a weekend or better yet a long weekend.
3) What projects people want to work on
Ben's DDC compiler is another interesting project people could work on. Cheers, Erik -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/

Erik de Castro Lopo
I'm a working programmer who has no idea when the university semesters start and end. Please don't leave me out :-).
[snip]
As the father of a school age child, I have some rather high demands on my 4 weeks of annual leave. For me, it would be advantageous if this could be arranged to overlap a weekend or better yet a long weekend.
At ANU, the holidays are from the 27th June to the 18th July; I have no idea about UNSW, etc. The plan was to have it on a weekend, though there seems to be a dearth of public holidays during that time period. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

On 16/03/2010, at 4:28 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why should all those northerners have all the fun)? I'm thinking about organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.
There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but nothing seems to have eventuated out of it.
In terms of projects, here are some ideas:
* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex Mason is interested in this) * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.; this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff) * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along
I'm keen. Would be be elated to have some help on Hubris, but happy to hack on other stuff too. Like Erik, weekends are probably better. mark

Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why should all those northerners have all the fun)? I'm thinking about organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.
There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but nothing seems to have eventuated out of it.
In terms of projects, here are some ideas:
* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex Mason is interested in this) * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.; this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff) * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along
I'm keen. Would be be elated to have some help on Hubris, but happy to hack on other stuff too. Like Erik, weekends are probably better.
Yeah we're aiming for a weekend, possibly a Friday-Sunday meet (so that people who are free on Friday can get started early, and those who have work etc. can just be there for the weekend. If there was a nicely placed long weekend coming up, we'd aim for that, but there isn't :( Also, it might be a good time to bring some interested rubyists along, and show them what we can get done in Haskell, and show them why they might want to use Hubris.

On 16 March 2010 16:28, Ivan Miljenovic
Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why should all those northerners have all the fun)? I'm thinking about organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.
Yes, I am interested. It would have to be overlap a weekend for me due to work commitments. I'll advertise it in the Melbourne FPU when more details are available. Cheers, Bernie.

OK, so we have a fair number of people indicating interest... so which
weekend would be preferred?
26/27 June
3/4 July
10/11 July
17/18 July
Or should we take this to the wiki rather than the mailing list?
On 16 March 2010 16:28, Ivan Miljenovic
Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why should all those northerners have all the fun)? I'm thinking about organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.
There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but nothing seems to have eventuated out of it.
In terms of projects, here are some ideas:
* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex Mason is interested in this) * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.; this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff) * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along * LLVM if David Terei comes
So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of: 1) Who's interested 2) What dates are good 3) What projects people want to work on 4) Where we can host this
Let's get the ball rolling!
-- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com
-- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

On 16 Mar 2010, at 18:28, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of: 1) Who's interested
I am.
2) What dates are good
A weekend would be best for me.
3) What projects people want to work on
Leksah.
4) Where we can host this
I suppose Wellington is out of the question, so anywhere in Aus is fine with me.

1) Who's interested
Interest, yes, but time is a very scarce resource these days...
2) What dates are good
Midyear break is 29 Jun to 18 Jul at UNSW, but I'm away for a week in that time period.
3) What projects people want to work on
To be honest, I'd probably be in and out and, on a weekend, have one or two kids running around me. So, working with and maybe coaching some people on code I'm familiar with is probably the most realistic. That could be Accelerate, GHC, or DPH.
4) Where we can host this
As Ben said, we should be able to organise a room at UNSW. Exactly how we get people on the network here (esp on a weekend), I'm less sure, but we could try to organise some guest accounts on the wireless or wired net — unless people want to bring 3G dongles or iPhones to tether.
OK, so we have a fair number of people indicating interest... so which weekend would be preferred? [..] Or should we take this to the wiki rather than the mailing list?
I'd suggest to do the planning of details on a wiki page. Manuel
participants (9)
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Alex Mason
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Ben Lippmeier
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Bernie Pope
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Erik de Castro Lopo
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Hamish Mackenzie
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Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
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Ivan Miljenovic
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Manuel M T Chakravarty
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Mark Wotton