Although you are joking, I've said it before and I'll say it again: server-side web development is dead. Everything that can be pushed to the client will be. Which leaves the server mainly for low-level persistence, data analysis, and anything requiring security. Static template-driven web frameworks are obsolete. Regards, John On Apr 1, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Jeremy Shaw wrote:

Hello,

I've been thinking a lot recently about the direction and future of the Happstack project.

These days we hear a lot about technologies to allow servers to push data, such as Comet, Ajax Push, Reverse Ajax, Two-way-web, HTTP Streaming, and HTTP server push among others. HTML 5 includes something called 'Web Sockets'. In short, it seems that the 'stateless' web model is a complete failure. People want sockets!

Furthermore, the big sites of the day are 'social media' sites such as Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Four Square, etc.

Well, it's clear to me where the industry is headed, and I think this is a great chance for Haskell to be the leader.

persistent connection + social web site == BBS

That's right! The return of the BBS is upon us. So, without further ado, I would like to announce the happstack-bbs project:

darcs get http://src.seereason.com/happstack-bbs/

You can connect right now to the world's newest Haskell BBS. Simple open a terminal which supports ansi & utf-8, and run:

telnet hacketeria.com 2525

Patches welcome (and sorely needed!)

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