On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote:

My recollection: One or two weeks ago, Hackage doc building was disabled because it was making the server really slow. (The same server had to serve you Hackage downloads. You don't want slow downloads.)

Wasbn't Hackage emergency relocated to a new server about a week ago? Possibly something is still not quite set up right --- or it copied over the settings from the old including docs being disabled, and nobody remembered to re-enable them. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.net

Thanks. Looking at the log, using the above links, mine has not been processed since it was uploaded at October 1 (there is no build log). https://hackage.haskell.org/package/haste-perch-0.1.0.4/reports/ According with the logs, there are packages that are not build since the end of September For example: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/haste-perch-0.1.0.4/reports/ It is not a question of documentation build, but the whole build process 2014-10-06 12:22 GMT+02:00 Magnus Therning :

On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 06:27:12PM -0400, Albert Y. C. Lai wrote:

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On 14-10-05 05:40 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

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Sorry if this has been asked/discussed previously

It seems that there are many packages in which the documentation is not generated. That is the visible effect since there is no indication if the build process failed or not.

My recollection: One or two weeks ago, Hackage doc building was disabled because it was making the server really slow. (The same server had to serve you Hackage downloads. You don't want slow downloads.)

It probably is still disabled.

Wasn't there also an announcement of the possibility of uploading generated docs where Hackage fails?

Indeed:

- http://fuuzetsu.co.uk/blog/posts/2014-01-06-Fix-your-Hackage-documentation.h... - http://fuuzetsu.co.uk/blog/posts/2014-01-06-Hackage-documentation-v2.html

Hopefully those two posts are still valid and useful.

/M

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Niklas, This can be used to manually upload hackage docs in the meantime. https://github.com/ekmett/lens/blob/master/scripts/hackage-docs.sh On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Niklas Hambüchen wrote:

Is anything coming out of this?

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Will builds come back?

Looking at http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/recent I have the impression it works OK now (with some delay, as always). Are you still experiencing problems? For a package uploaded right now or in the preceding weeks?

Its a matter of manpower on the entirely volunteers infrastructure team. Talk with them Ti figure out how you can help. A few people are working on setting up some mitigation, but I hesitate to name names until we've gotten the mitigations running live. On Oct 11, 2014 7:38 PM, "Alberto G. Corona" wrote:

In my case, the two packages are still not built. I looked at some others which had documentation generated since then, for example:

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/haste-compiler-0.4.3

But the documentation seem not to be generated by hackage, since there is no activity log: is empty:

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/haste-compiler-0.4.3/reports/

It may have been uploaded.

It is not a problem of documentation but the entire build process. That is a big issue. Can we contribute in some way?. computing power should not be a problem today....

2014-10-12 1:24 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Konarski :

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Will builds come back?

Looking at

http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/recent

I have the impression it works OK now (with some delay, as always). Are you still experiencing problems? For a package uploaded right now or in the preceding weeks? _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

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Indeed; this stuff is pretty much all done by volunteers so far as I know. So I'm not asking it to always work perfectly, but it would be nice to have a better way to find out that this stuff is turned off than just folklore and guessing. Perhaps in the future an announcement that explains the problem could be made? (Forgive me if one was made but I missed it) In the past, whether or not the documentation built for your package was a sort of cheap way to figure out if your package built for people other than you. Kind regards, Jon On Sun, Oct 12, 2014, at 04:50 AM, Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote:

On 10/12/2014 01:14 AM, Carter Schonwald wrote:

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Its a matter of manpower on the entirely volunteers infrastructure team. Talk with them Ti figure out how you can help.

A few people are working on setting up some mitigation, but I hesitate to name names until we've gotten the mitigations running live.

The biggest problem is that there is no official statement as to why the builds stopped and an estimate of when they are coming back.

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On Oct 11, 2014 7:38 PM, "Alberto G. Corona" wrote:

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In my case, the two packages are still not built. I looked at some others which had documentation generated since then, for example:

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/haste-compiler-0.4.3

But the documentation seem not to be generated by hackage, since there is no activity log: is empty:

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/haste-compiler-0.4.3/reports/

It may have been uploaded.

It is not a problem of documentation but the entire build process. That is a big issue. Can we contribute in some way?. computing power should not be a problem today....

2014-10-12 1:24 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Konarski :

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Will builds come back?

Looking at

http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/recent

I have the impression it works OK now (with some delay, as always). Are you still experiencing problems? For a package uploaded right now or in the preceding weeks? _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

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I was wrong and you were right about the halted haddock building. So I asked around and, just as Carter reports, I confirmed a few kind people are currently working on setting up new doc building bots and it doesn't look too bad. If you'd like to offer help to the volunteer infrastructure team, please send a message to the haskell-infrastructure list at http://community.galois.com/pipermail/haskell-infrastructure or keep pinging people on #haskell-infrastructure on freenode IRC. This is also where you can, with some luck, get information about the current status of the infrastructure. Major disruptions are usually reported on https://status.haskell.org/ but the page needs to be manually updated and, as we can see, it's not always accurate when partial disruptions take place. Cheers, Mikolaj