Fwd: Re: [Haskell-cafe] avoiding command window with wxHaskell on Windows?

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:19:50 -0400 To: Jens Fisseler
From: Dean Herington Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] avoiding command window with wxHaskell on Windows? Cc: haskell-cafe@haskell.org, wxhaskell-users@lists.sourceforge.net At 10:10 PM +0200 6/23/07, Jens Fisseler wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Dean Herington wrote:
But if I double-click the .exe file, I get a command window that hangs around (but doesn't appear to do anything, fortunately) until the program terminates. How can I avoid this command window?
With gtk2hs, using "-optl-mwindows" as a command line option for GHC lets me get rid of this window. Perhaps it will do the same for wxHaskell?
Yes, that did the trick! Thanks a lot!
But now I've discovered that using "-optl-mwindows" creates a program that doesn't work when invoked from a command line. Is there any way to create a program that can work when invoked either from a command line or through double-clicking? Dean

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 23:22 -0400, Dean Herington wrote:
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:19:50 -0400
With gtk2hs, using "-optl-mwindows" as a command line option for GHC lets me get rid of this window. Perhaps it will do the same for wxHaskell?
Yes, that did the trick! Thanks a lot!
But now I've discovered that using "-optl-mwindows" creates a program that doesn't work when invoked from a command line. Is there any way to create a program that can work when invoked either from a command line or through double-clicking?
You'll have to be a bit more specific about what you mean. Perhaps you mean that when launched from the command line you cannot interact with the program via that command line interface. That is indeed standard windows behaviour. You can create new terminals at runtime using Win32 functions, but I'm not sure if you can figure out if the program was launched from a terminal and associate with that terminal. But perhaps you meant something else. Duncan

On 6/30/07, Duncan Coutts
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 23:22 -0400, Dean Herington wrote:
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:19:50 -0400
With gtk2hs, using "-optl-mwindows" as a command line option for GHC lets me get rid of this window. Perhaps it will do the same for wxHaskell?
Yes, that did the trick! Thanks a lot!
But now I've discovered that using "-optl-mwindows" creates a program that doesn't work when invoked from a command line. Is there any way to create a program that can work when invoked either from a command line or through double-clicking?
You'll have to be a bit more specific about what you mean. Perhaps you mean that when launched from the command line you cannot interact with the program via that command line interface. That is indeed standard windows behaviour.
You can create new terminals at runtime using Win32 functions, but I'm not sure if you can figure out if the program was launched from a terminal and associate with that terminal.
But perhaps you meant something else.
Assuming it's not something else. As far as I know, the console/non-console application is marked in exe-header, and you can, in principle, have two entrypoints to a program, one for console and one without. Unfortunately that's not supported by most tools (and probably none outside Microsoft toolchains.) So, in practice, either you make console applications, or non-console application. And as Duncan says, you can open new console if you don't have one, but that will have different window than parent process had. Opening new console might also require some interfacing with haskell runtime system if you want to use default putStrLn and friends. I think I saw a library to help with that, but I can't find it right now. Best regards, Esa

At 8:13 PM +0300 6/30/07, Esa Ilari Vuokko wrote:
On 6/30/07, Duncan Coutts
wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 23:22 -0400, Dean Herington wrote:
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:19:50 -0400
With gtk2hs, using "-optl-mwindows" as a command line option for GHC lets me get rid of this window. Perhaps it will do the same for wxHaskell?
Yes, that did the trick! Thanks a lot!
But now I've discovered that using "-optl-mwindows" creates a program that doesn't work when invoked from a command line. Is there any way to create a program that can work when invoked either from a command line or through double-clicking?
You'll have to be a bit more specific about what you mean. Perhaps you mean that when launched from the command line you cannot interact with the program via that command line interface. That is indeed standard windows behaviour.
You can create new terminals at runtime using Win32 functions, but I'm not sure if you can figure out if the program was launched from a terminal and associate with that terminal.
But perhaps you meant something else.
Assuming it's not something else.
As far as I know, the console/non-console application is marked in exe-header, and you can, in principle, have two entrypoints to a program, one for console and one without. Unfortunately that's not supported by most tools (and probably none outside Microsoft toolchains.)
So, in practice, either you make console applications, or non-console application.
It turns out I was confused (due I think to terribly slow network response). I have experimented more and believe I understand: -optl-mwindows creates a program that is suitable for "launching" (by either double-clicking or via a command line). The program so launched does not have a console or any direct way to communicate to the launcher. In particular, the launcher continues on its way immediately and cannot obtain the launchee's termination status. For the application I'm building, besides being able to launch it as above, I want also to be able to "invoke" it (normally from a command line). A program so invoked can interact with its invoker, and the invoker awaits the program's completion and gets its termination status. From what Esa said, it appears unlikely that a single .exe can be built easily using Haskell and wxHaskell that can be both launched and invoked. (In which case being able to produce a shared library containing the common code for the two .exe files would be nice!) Thanks for all the replies. Dean

For the application I'm building, besides being able to launch it as above, I want also to be able to "invoke" it (normally from a command line). A program so invoked can interact with its invoker, and the invoker awaits the program's completion and gets its termination status.
From what Esa said, it appears unlikely that a single .exe can be built easily using Haskell and wxHaskell that can be both launched and invoked.
as a partial workaround, you could create a shortcut for the .exe, and set the shortcut properties to start in a minimized window.. claus
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Claus Reinke
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Dean Herington
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Duncan Coutts
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Esa Ilari Vuokko