On 03/03/2011 07:12 AM, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:

However, now I actually use vim - but that's because I'm scared of trying to install Leksah on Windows (maybe it isn't hard, I haven't tried) and because I'm only doing rather tiny things with Haskell at the moment.

FWIW, last time I tried, "installing Leksah on Windows" consisted of downloading a compiled EXE file and double-clicking it. It was literally that complex.

I use vim (CLI not gvim). Any productivity I lose without the niceties of Leksah are probably made up for with the gains from being a vim user for years. -- Michael Xavier http://www.michaelxavier.net

I have been using Notepad++ -- it has proper (I think) syntaks highlighting and in the latest version now has line wrapping a la kate: broken lines start at the indent level of the first one. -- Markus Läll On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Daniel Fischer < daniel.is.fischer@googlemail.com> wrote:

On Thursday 03 March 2011 22:14:34, Michael Xavier wrote:

...

I use vim (CLI not gvim).

I use kate.

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2011/3/3 JP Moresmau :

Hello, I'm one of the maintainers of EclipseFP. It is a real alternative: it works, it is maintained, supported and enhanced. I use it for my own projects, and of course I use it to work on the version of the scion library that ships with it, so we eat our own dogfood :-). A new minor version is going to come out in the next couple of weeks. Why don't you give it a try? We appreciate any feedback!

from http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/eclipsefp2.html I understand that building scion is automatically done, but can be optionally done it it's too long. but from http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/build.html I see that I do have to build it. But : git clone http://github.com/JPMoresmau/scion.git Initialized empty Git repository in /data/code/scion/.git/ remote: Counting objects: 3563, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (1310/1310), done. remote: Total 3563 (delta 2137), reused 3342 (delta 1970) Receiving objects: 100% (3563/3563), 580.09 KiB | 395 KiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (2137/2137), done. david@pcdavid:~/code$ cd scion/ david@pcdavid:~/code/scion$ sudo cabal install [sudo] password for david: Resolving dependencies... cabal: dependencies conflict: ghc-6.12.3 requires Cabal ==1.8.0.6 however Cabal-1.8.0.6 was excluded because scion-0.1.0.8 requires Cabal ==1.6.* I'm not sure what to do now. Trying to install eclipsefp without scion built in case it works, but I'm not used to eclipse, I could use some screenshots to take me step by step through the process. For example, My "project" menu has open grayed, and file/import wants me to choose an import source (I chose Existing project into workspace) but then do I copy projects into workspace ( I did not ) I have eclipse already setup with android development (I have just a toy project, I planned to learn about android programming), when I imported the projects they appeared at the same place. Is there a way not to mix android and haskell projects ? Do I create a new workspace, or assign working sets ? Anyway the projects are in the workspace, and there's 123 warnings; but I can't really tell if the build failed or not. Selecting all the project, and right-click - refresh didn't seem to change anything. But it seems it worked, because step 7 does launch a new eclipse window, and I can see haskell in the preferences. Except that I had an error message regarding scion, and stupid me, clicked ok before I could remember what was written. I tried rebuild scion, but nothing seemed to happen. I closed the first Eclipse window (the one that has all the eclipsefp projects in the package explorer), but then the second one closed too. I lauched eclipse again, run configurations, etc and this time it looks like scion is building (well something happens in the Console tab) While this is building, I'm wondering if there's a way to launch eclise directly in the right "mode". Not having to go to run configurations, etc. Ah, the build failed. Complains that HUnit is missing. So I cabal install it, close my Eclipse window, run configurations again on the first Eclipse window, and the build resumes. .... And build success. Now to open a haskell source file and play with Eclipse. </feedback> David.

I use leksah, and I want to say thanks to the people that maintain it. I want also to encourage them to continuing its valuable work. from the last release of Leksah, I particulary appreciate its: Multiplatform support Ease of installation in all platforms including windows capability to works with many cabal packages in a single workspace its detection of dependencies and rebuilding of the affected packages Integration of GHCI and the GHCI debugger integrated building of documentation referencing and navigation trough the source of the installed packages and of course all the other traditional IDE capabilities 2011/3/7 David Virebayre

2011/3/3 JP Moresmau :

...

Hello, I'm one of the maintainers of EclipseFP. It is a real alternative: it works, it is maintained, supported and enhanced. I use it for my own projects, and of course I use it to work on the version of the scion library that ships with it, so we eat our own dogfood :-). A new minor version is going to come out in the next couple of weeks. Why don't you give it a try? We appreciate any feedback!

from http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/eclipsefp2.html I understand that building scion is automatically done, but can be optionally done it it's too long. but from http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/build.html I see that I do have to build it. But :

git clone http://github.com/JPMoresmau/scion.git Initialized empty Git repository in /data/code/scion/.git/ remote: Counting objects: 3563, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (1310/1310), done. remote: Total 3563 (delta 2137), reused 3342 (delta 1970) Receiving objects: 100% (3563/3563), 580.09 KiB | 395 KiB/s, done.

Resolving deltas: 100% (2137/2137), done.

david@pcdavid:~/code$ cd scion/

david@pcdavid:~/code/scion$ sudo cabal install [sudo] password for david: Resolving dependencies... cabal: dependencies conflict: ghc-6.12.3 requires Cabal ==1.8.0.6 however Cabal-1.8.0.6 was excluded because scion-0.1.0.8 requires Cabal ==1.6.*

I'm not sure what to do now. Trying to install eclipsefp without scion built in case it works, but I'm not used to eclipse, I could use some screenshots to take me step by step through the process. For example, My "project" menu has open grayed, and file/import wants me to choose an import source (I chose Existing project into workspace) but then do I copy projects into workspace ( I did not )

I have eclipse already setup with android development (I have just a toy project, I planned to learn about android programming), when I imported the projects they appeared at the same place. Is there a way not to mix android and haskell projects ? Do I create a new workspace, or assign working sets ?

Anyway the projects are in the workspace, and there's 123 warnings; but I can't really tell if the build failed or not. Selecting all the project, and right-click - refresh didn't seem to change anything.

But it seems it worked, because step 7 does launch a new eclipse window, and I can see haskell in the preferences. Except that I had an error message regarding scion, and stupid me, clicked ok before I could remember what was written.

I tried rebuild scion, but nothing seemed to happen. I closed the first Eclipse window (the one that has all the eclipsefp projects in the package explorer), but then the second one closed too. I lauched eclipse again, run configurations, etc and this time it looks like scion is building (well something happens in the Console tab)

While this is building, I'm wondering if there's a way to launch eclise directly in the right "mode". Not having to go to run configurations, etc.

Ah, the build failed. Complains that HUnit is missing. So I cabal install it, close my Eclipse window, run configurations again on the first Eclipse window, and the build resumes.

.... And build success. Now to open a haskell source file and play with Eclipse.

</feedback>

David.

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Please try the version here https://github.com/jutaro Hopefully we will be in a position to release a new version very soon. Hamish On 8/03/2011, at 5:39, Daniel Fischer wrote:

On Monday 07 March 2011 16:08:01, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

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I use leksah, and I want to say thanks to the people that maintain it. I want also to encourage them to continuing its valuable work.

from the last release of Leksah, I particulary appreciate its:

Multiplatform support Ease of installation in all platforms including windows capability to works with many cabal packages in a single workspace its detection of dependencies and rebuilding of the affected packages Integration of GHCI and the GHCI debugger integrated building of documentation referencing and navigation trough the source of the installed packages and of course all the other traditional IDE capabilities

That sounds nice, so I thought I'd try out leksah again.

Unfortunately, the dependencies rule out GHC-7 (base < 4.3, Cabal < 1.9, containers < 0.4 were the ones that sprang to the eyes immediately). Bummer

Maybe someone could try relaxing the bounds and build it with GHC-7, and - if it works - upload a new version? (I could try if I get a go-ahead from Hamish or Jürgen)

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On 07/03/2011 04:39 PM, Daniel Fischer wrote:

That sounds nice, so I thought I'd try out leksah again.

Unfortunately, the dependencies rule out GHC-7

Maybe someone could try relaxing the bounds and build it with GHC-7, and - if it works - upload a new version? (I could try if I get a go-ahead from Hamish or Jürgen)

I couldn't get it to build either. So I just grabbed the Windows binary from the homepage and used that. Worked just fine... (Not sure that they have binaries for platforms that aren't Windows though. Can't remember off the top of my head.)

The eclipseFP Help forum or mailing list is probably a better medium for EclipseFP questions than haskell-cafe, I'd say... EclipseFP uses the scion library, but comes bundled with it, so it should be able to build it (including downloading dependencies from hackage) itself without you building scion manually (if you still want to do it, there is a flag you can set to specify the version of Cabal you're using). I think you're confusing the instructions to install EclipseFP and use it to develop in Haskell with the instructions on the build page that are for people that wish to hack EclipseFP itself. Basically you need to install EclipseFP using the Eclipse "install new software" features and take it from there. You can of course have different workspaces, one for your haskell projects, one for your android projects, but it doesn't matter if you have projects of different types in the same workspace. Good luck, and if you're still confused feel free to contact me directly. JP On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, David Virebayre wrote:

2011/3/3 JP Moresmau :

...

Hello, I'm one of the maintainers of EclipseFP. It is a real alternative: it works, it is maintained, supported and enhanced. I use it for my own projects, and of course I use it to work on the version of the scion library that ships with it, so we eat our own dogfood :-). A new minor version is going to come out in the next couple of weeks. Why don't you give it a try? We appreciate any feedback!

from  http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/eclipsefp2.html I understand that building scion is automatically done, but can be optionally done it it's too long. but from http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/build.html I see that I do have to build it. But :

git clone http://github.com/JPMoresmau/scion.git Initialized empty Git repository in /data/code/scion/.git/ remote: Counting objects: 3563, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (1310/1310), done. remote: Total 3563 (delta 2137), reused 3342 (delta 1970) Receiving objects: 100% (3563/3563), 580.09 KiB | 395 KiB/s, done.

Resolving deltas: 100% (2137/2137), done.

david@pcdavid:~/code$ cd scion/

david@pcdavid:~/code/scion$ sudo cabal install [sudo] password for david: Resolving dependencies... cabal: dependencies conflict: ghc-6.12.3 requires Cabal ==1.8.0.6 however Cabal-1.8.0.6 was excluded because scion-0.1.0.8 requires Cabal ==1.6.*

I'm not sure what to do now. Trying to install eclipsefp without scion built in case it works, but I'm not used to eclipse, I could use some screenshots to take me step by step through the process. For example, My "project" menu has open grayed, and file/import wants me to choose an import source (I chose Existing project into workspace) but then do I copy projects into workspace ( I did not ) I have eclipse already setup with android development (I have just a toy project, I planned to learn about android programming), when I imported the projects they appeared at the same place. Is there a way not to mix android and haskell projects ? Do I create a new workspace, or assign working sets ? Anyway the projects are in the workspace, and there's 123 warnings; but I can't really tell if the build failed or not. Selecting all the project, and right-click - refresh didn't seem to change anything. But it seems it worked, because step 7 does launch a new eclipse window, and I can see haskell in the preferences. Except that I had an error message regarding scion, and stupid me, clicked ok before I could remember what was written. I tried rebuild scion, but nothing seemed to happen. I closed the first Eclipse window (the one that has all the eclipsefp projects in the package explorer), but then the second one closed too. I lauched eclipse again, run configurations, etc and this time it looks like scion is building (well something happens in the Console tab) While this is building, I'm wondering if there's a way to launch eclise directly in the right "mode". Not having to go to run configurations, etc. Ah, the build failed. Complains that HUnit is missing. So I cabal install it, close my Eclipse window, run configurations again on the first Eclipse window, and the build resumes. .... And build success. Now to open a haskell source file and play with Eclipse. </feedback> David.

-- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Andrew Butterfield wrote:

On 3 Mar 2011, at 07:05, Hauschild, Klaus (EXT) wrote:

Hi Haskellers,

whats your Haskell IDE of choise? Currently I use leksah. Is the EclipseFP Plugin for Eclipse a real alternative?

WinEdt*/MikTex/GHCi do leksah/EclipseFP support literate haskell programming (mix of .tex and .lhs files) ?

* not to be confused with WinEdit !

Thanks

Klaus

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EclipseFP supports lhs files. Not too sure about tex files, I know some support was built but I haven't worked on it. -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/

On 4 March 2011 19:16, Gracjan Polak wrote:

Alexander Danilov writes:

...

03.03.2011 16:05, Hauschild, Klaus (EXT) пишет:

...

Hi Haskellers, whats your Haskell IDE of choise? Currently I use leksah. Is the EclipseFP Plugin for Eclipse a real alternative? Thanks Klaus

Emacs, look at haskell wiki for details about haskell-mode.

Emacs is good as an editor for Haskell. Indentation is problematic.

I'd like to have a indent mode that has following bindings: - TAB indents 4 chars more - Shift-TAB indents 4 chars less - RET - indents a line same as previous line unless last line had a block  opening keyword

Sounds similar to what haskell-indent does, except that it uses 2 spaces rather than 4, backspace does the chars less, and TAB also has a version (albeit not as nice as the one in haskell-indentation) of the tab-cycle. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

I use kate too. I tried and liked leksah, but the fact that everything is a project with a cabal file felt to heavy for me when I just want to hack on a single .hs file.