How easy is it to hire reasonable Haskell programmers? Of course, this may mean, hiring people with the aptitude and interest to quickly learn Haskell. Has anyone any experience of this that they can share? -- Mark
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 12 March 2002 01:17, Mark Carroll wrote:
How easy is it to hire reasonable Haskell programmers? Of course, this may mean, hiring people with the aptitude and interest to quickly learn Haskell. Has anyone any experience of this that they can share?
I know it's easy. Try me. ;)
Sincerely,
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Eray Ozkural (exa)
Ladies. Gentlemen. What is a "Haskell programmer"? Frankly, I am fed-up with this thread which from time to time raises its ugly head like a Phoenix Turtle mutant... Does anybody (especially young people who want to use Haskell to get more money, love, health and political influence...) seriously think that we are in a *such* hyperspecialized world? I'll tell you an anecdote. *Absolutely* authentic. Once upon a time, some centuries ago, when the dynasty of Jagellons in Poland became extinct like dinosaurs, my folk had a splendid idea to have elected kings. They elected a whole bunch of them, one worse than another, with first of them, one Alexander, the Duke of Anjou (known afterwards as Henry Valois), who after a few months flew away to France, stealing the Crown Treasure goodies, and became the reputed Henry III. The punishment came later, but unavoidably... (But I am digressing...) After one very successful election, the Ambassador of Venice wrote a letter to his sovereign: "Poles elected a new king. Very impressive man, very cultivated. Speaks fluently 7 foreign languages. And has nothing to say whatsoever in any of them..." === OK, now seriously. A PROGRAMMER should know how to program independently of the linguistic quirks of this or that language. Yeah, I know, this is an ideal presupposing that such a fellow is really well educated in algorithmics, security, interfacing etc., which is seldom the case. But, anyway, functional programming is for intelligent people. Intelligent people should say to an employer <<in spe>>: "Don't ask me about Java, etc., buzzwords. I can program in ANY language. My strength relies not in "in which language", but in the usage of good algorithms/coding paradigms, security & maintenance issues, etc. It happens, though, that if you give me some freedom, I know some best languages in the world to fulfil the tasks you plan, notably Haskell. Oh, nobody here uses it, and I should comply with your protocols? No problem, I won't insist. But from time to time I will show also how the things can be coded faster and nicer". Je vous souhaite Salud y Pesetas. Jerzy Karczmarczuk Caen, France
Mark Carroll
How easy is it to hire reasonable Haskell programmers? Of course, this may mean, hiring people with the aptitude and interest to quickly learn Haskell. Has anyone any experience of this that they can share?
Depends where you are, I guess. In Sydney, it would be easy. We are teaching Haskell to about 1500 first-year students every year. Many of them are not CS majors and so probably wouldn't fit your bill, but a large number of our School's graduates have enough experience in imperative, OO, and functional programming that they can work in any of these areas. I know that there are a number of schools in Germany and the UK who teach functional programming on a large scale, too. Not so sure about the rest of the planet. At least MIT and Rice should produce some Scheme programmers ;-) You might like to enquire at some universities close to you where you are located whether any of their graduates may be useful to you. Cheers, Manuel
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Manuel M. T. Chakravarty wrote:
Depends where you are, I guess. In Sydney, it would be easy. We are teaching Haskell to about 1500 first-year students every year.
I know that there are a number of schools in Germany and the UK who teach functional programming on a large scale, too. Not so sure about the rest of the planet.
Melbourne University is teaching similar numbers (perhaps slightly less; probably more than 1000) of first-year students Haskell every year. -- Nick Nethercote njn25@cam.ac.uk
I know that there are a number of schools in Germany and the UK who teach functional programming on a large scale, too. Not so sure about the rest of the planet.
Melbourne University is teaching similar numbers (perhaps slightly less; probably more than 1000) of first-year students Haskell every year.
University of La Plata, in Argentina, is teaching functional programming and Haskell to 200 second-year students a year. University of Buenos Aires includes some basic functional programming skills in the first course on programming (300 students a year). University of Cordoba also teachs functional programming in basic courses, but I don't know the exact figures. FF
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