On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Don Stewart wrote:

marlowsd:

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As noted before, the Wikipedia article for Haskell is a disorganised mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_%28programming_language%29

earlier this year, dons suggested reorganising it and posted a template on the Haskell wiki:

http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/WikipediaArticleDesign

I've made a start on a new version of the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Simonmar/Haskell_%28programming_language%2...

I've kept most of the existing information, but reorganised it more or less according to Don's template, and I filled out the overview section.  Also I fixed numerous things, but the page still has a long way to go

Does anyone mind if I spam the existing Haskell article with this new one, or do people think we should continue editing the sandbox version until it's in better shape?

Maybe we should make the switch, and move the old page into some historical section. That's more likely to ensure the page gets filled out...

Gwern, other wikipedians, thoughts?

-- Don

The changes look fine to me, although I'm a little surprised at all the {{fact}} tags. (Some of them look very easy to fix, like why typeclasses were introduced in the first place.) There's no need to do any page moving or anything; the new version can just be pasted in. The main concern is maintaining a complete & correct copyright history, and if Simon made all the edits modifying the original text, and he also makes the big update, then there's no issue: the holder of the copyright will appear aright in the history with all his changes. -- gwern

Simon Marlow writes:

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There's no need to do any page moving or anything; the new version can just be pasted in.

Ok, done! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_%28programming_language%29

After conferring briefly with people on IRC (yeah, on a Saturday morning, who am I kidding?), I moved the talk page to an archive, and started a new one. (The archive is linked from the new talk page.) Most of the discussion seemed to be quite outdated, many of the issues had been addressed, and since we got a new structure on the main page, it seemed like a good idea to stow the old stuff and start afresh. But it was a long page, so if you had a cause you feel needs more arguing, please copy back from the old page or, perhaps better, restate your issues on the new one. Okay? -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

On 04/12/2009 11:18, Sean Leather wrote:

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 00:30, Simon Marlow wrote:

As noted before, the Wikipedia article for Haskell is a disorganised mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_%28programming_language%29

I'm confused. When I'm logged in to Wikipedia, I see a page that is vastly different from when I'm not logged in. I haven't played with Wikipedia in a long time, so perhaps there is some reason for this, of which I am not aware.

Doesn't do that for me. Strange. Cheers, Simon