FW: [Haskell-cafe] RE:Cross-over from Haskell.org [Haskell] Re: Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

These Haskell lists seems to have a problem of having to many elitist pricks on it admittedly I am probably in this category as well so I will help you guys and by eliminating one prick and remove myself from the list good luck with the rest of them Troy -----Original Message----- From: u.stenzel@web.de [mailto:u.stenzel@web.de] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:35 PM To: Taillefer, Troy (EXP) Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE:Cross-over from Haskell.org [Haskell] Re: Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell? Taillefer, Troy (EXP) wrote:
I really dislike Perl as a programming language but I have to strongly
disagree about your statements about CPAN and the quality of its contents.
Consider Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap. It's true of CPAN, too, which is only a stand in for any large collection of libraries. We don't gain anything from wrapping or reimplementing the crap, therefore, if you like some particular library, you should ask for *that* library, nor for more libraries in general. no need to get all touchy-feely about this.
Perl is popular so it must have some merit.
So is Crack. I still won't smoke it, though.
I don't subscribe to the flawed reasoning that Perl Hackers just don't know any better or that they are dumb, or intellectual inferior in some way.
Well, I didn't make that point in the mail you're replying to, but I subscribe to it. Perl *is* unadultered crap, it *is* a bad idea carried to perfection, a shoddy language that teaches bad habits, rewards stupidity and encourages you to attack every problem with the same blunt old tool, the regex, and most Perl Hackers, those who voluntarily use it to solve actual problem, *are* in fact dumb, don't want to know any better and are resistant to education. Perl is in every way the opposite of Haskell, and I happen to like Haskell. Imitating Perl is even worse than imitating C++. ...but I don't even wan't to discuss this, neither in private nor on a mailing list. If you want to argue, ask Google for Erik Naggum; nothing more needs to be said about it.
... I am pro choice.
And I *choose* to belittle Perl Hackers as much as I want. If that stops anyone from using Perl, it's their *choice*. And you can *choose* to hate me for belittling you, jackass. Political Correctness is even more misguided than Perl.

no need to get all touchy-feely about this.
Perl is popular so it must have some merit.
So is Crack. I still won't smoke it, though.
I don't subscribe to the flawed reasoning that Perl Hackers just don't know any better or that they are dumb, or intellectual inferior in some way.
most Perl Hackers, those who voluntarily use it to solve actual problem, *are* in fact dumb, don't want to know any better and are resistant to education.
If you want to argue, ask Google for Erik Naggum; nothing more needs to be said about it.
I *choose* to belittle Perl Hackers as much as I want. If that stops anyone from using Perl, it's their *choice*. And you can *choose* to hate me for belittling you, jackass.
Ummm... Udo? Just what the fuck did you hope to accomplish with this
kind of talk? Seriously, if you're channeling Erik Naggum, please stop.
One socially-maladjusted-to-the-point-of-psychosis individual as a
language advocate is more than enough. It's likely two too many, in
fact.
Reply as you see fit to bolster your ego.
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Michael T. Richter

G'day all.
Quoting "Michael T. Richter"
Ummm... Udo? Just what the fuck did you hope to accomplish with this kind of talk?
Guys, could we keep it civil on the list, please? And for the record: http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/12/advocacy.html Cheers, Andrew Bromage

ajb:
G'day all.
Quoting "Michael T. Richter"
: Ummm... Udo? Just what the fuck did you hope to accomplish with this kind of talk?
Guys, could we keep it civil on the list, please?
And for the record:
I'd like to second Andrew here. This is really not appropriate for a Haskell list -- in fact, its pretty much a first I think :/ Please keep it friendly guys ! -- Don P.S. we have some other resources on actively building and maintaining a community here: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Protect_the_community
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