
hi all, as stated in the subject, i'm a newcomer to haskell programming: i've read some tutorials and (portions of) a couple of books and am really fascinated with the language. but my haskell coding experience is limited to toy programs and short exercises. so i decided to try my hand at a small project to really learn haskell and the functional programming mindset[1], and i would appreciate to hear your opinions and comments on some issues before i start coding: - build toolchain. i'm used to the autoconfig/automake/make tools for C/C++ projects, and to ant for Java stuff. what do haskellers use? my initial thought was using a plain Makefile with ghc, but there is also hmake and maybe other tools i am missing. what would you use? [2] - graphics toolkit. one of my programs will be a GUI. there seems to be a lot of choice here: gtk2hs looks nice (as used in hircules) and fudgets seems to have a pretty interesting and well-documented architecture (which covers also client/server programming: i'll be using a client/server architecture too) but its widgets are uglier and look alien in current linux desktops. i'd like to have a fudgets-gtk framework of sorts :) and then, there is htoolkit, Object I/O and whatnot... any recommendations? - TCP/IP stuff. i will have a client/server architecture with TCP/IP as the transport protocol. other than fudgets, i'm not aware of any haskell framework for IPC: am i missing something? - XML. i'll be handling XML documents, and HaXml seems to me an excellent candidate to cover this area, but, of course, i'm very interested in hearing of alternatives... thanks a lot for your help! cheers, jao Footnotes: [1] if that matters, the project will consist on a set of utilities for handling a document metadata database, based upon the OMF standard. [2] my project will consist of several executables, sharing a set of common libraries and, therefore, i plan to use (if possible) a non-flat directory layout. -- Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare. - Blair Houghton.

hi, Jose A.Ortega Ruiz wrote:
hi all,
as stated in the subject, i'm a newcomer to haskell programming: i've read some tutorials and (portions of) a couple of books and am really fascinated with the language. but my haskell coding experience is limited to toy programs and short exercises. so i decided to try my hand at a small project to really learn haskell and the functional programming mindset[1], and i would appreciate to hear your opinions and comments on some issues before i start coding:
- build toolchain. i'm used to the autoconfig/automake/make tools for C/C++ projects, and to ant for Java stuff. what do haskellers use? my initial thought was using a plain Makefile with ghc, but there is also hmake and maybe other tools i am missing. what would you use? [2] ghc --make is also quite useful (the ghc documentation is at: haskell.org/ghc).
- graphics toolkit. one of my programs will be a GUI. there seems to be a lot of choice here: gtk2hs looks nice (as used in hircules) and fudgets seems to have a pretty interesting and well-documented architecture (which covers also client/server programming: i'll be using a client/server architecture too) but its widgets are uglier and look alien in current linux desktops. i'd like to have a fudgets-gtk framework of sorts :) and then, there is htoolkit, Object I/O and whatnot... any recommendations? this is a tough one... i think most of the libraries have some quircks. there are a few recent attempts to get a good library going, but i haven't had a chance to try them (the latest as far as i know are wxHaskell and hToolkit). i have a bit of experience with fudgets and it works. it is however getting a bit old (hence the funny look, and programming it is sometimes a bit weird). it would be nice to have a new fudgets, but it seems like a rather large task.
- TCP/IP stuff. i will have a client/server architecture with TCP/IP as the transport protocol. other than fudgets, i'm not aware of any haskell framework for IPC: am i missing something? ghc has a bunch of libraries for networking. they are a bit low level, but if you are used to writing networking applications in C, they are fine (and perhaps better). see the library documentation of ghc.
- XML. i'll be handling XML documents, and HaXml seems to me an excellent candidate to cover this area, but, of course, i'm very interested in hearing of alternatives... never used any of those.
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Jose A.Ortega Ruiz wrote:
as stated in the subject, i'm a newcomer to haskell programming: i've read some tutorials and (portions of) a couple of books and am really fascinated with the language. but my haskell coding experience is limited to toy programs and short exercises. so i decided to try my hand at a small project to really learn haskell and the functional programming mindset[1], and i would appreciate to hear your opinions and comments on some issues before i start coding:
- build toolchain. i'm used to the autoconfig/automake/make tools for C/C++ projects, and to ant for Java stuff. what do haskellers use? my initial thought was using a plain Makefile with ghc, but there is also hmake and maybe other tools i am missing. what would you use? [2]
There's also "ghc --make".
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Glynn Clements

Jose A.Ortega Ruiz wrote:
- XML. i'll be handling XML documents, and HaXml seems to me an excellent candidate to cover this area, but, of course, i'm very interested in hearing of alternatives...
There's also the Haskell XML toolbox:
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Glynn Clements
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Iavor Diatchki
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Joe English
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Jose A.Ortega Ruiz