community server & hasktags learned recursing into directories

Marc Weber

4 Feb 2011 4 Feb '11

10:35 p.m.

hasktags learned about how to recurse into subdirectories itself. This is especially useful for windows because writing scripts can be done but is less well known (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4865391/answer/submit) Now I'd like to push the latest changes to the community server which was hosting the repo in the past but my account does no longer work? Also there are some dead links now. Eg http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell.org_domain still references http://community.haskell.org/admin/ (404) Do you know what happened and where I should host the repo now? (uploading it to github would take seconds only) Moreover I fonud that I was no longer subscribed to haskell-cafe. I can't remember having unsubscribed ? Let's hope this mail get's through now after having resubscribed. Marc Weber

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Ivan Lazar Miljenovic

4 Feb 4 Feb

10:58 p.m.

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On 5 February 2011 09:35, Marc Weber wrote:

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Now I'd like to push the latest changes to the community server which was hosting the repo in the past but my account does no longer work?

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2011-February/088829.html Short version: community.haskell.org was hacked. Admins quickly shifted it to a new server ahead of schedule (since if they were going to do a fix/update they might as well do it on a new machine). Some stuff is up, but the various logins, etc. aren't for security reasons, etc.

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Moreover I fonud that I was no longer subscribed to haskell-cafe. I can't remember having unsubscribed ?

No idea about that one.

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Let's hope this mail get's through now after having resubscribed.

I'm sorry, but it didn't :p -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

Luke Palmer

11:14 p.m.

New subject: community server & hasktags learned recursing into directories

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Marc Weber wrote:

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hasktags learned about how to recurse into subdirectories itself.

This is especially useful for windows because writing scripts can be done but is less well known (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4865391/answer/submit)

Now I'd like to push the latest changes to the community server which was hosting the repo in the past but my account does no longer work?

Also there are some dead links now. Eg http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell.org_domain still references http://community.haskell.org/admin/ (404)

Do you know what happened and where I should host the repo now? (uploading it to github would take seconds only)

I host all my modules on github. It is a very supportive environment for spontaneous collaborative development. c.h.o is a nice place, but lacks in maturity in comparison. As long as there is a complete, free place like github around, why not use it? Luke

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Moreover I fonud that I was no longer subscribed to haskell-cafe. I can't remember having unsubscribed ?

Let's hope this mail get's through now after having resubscribed.

Marc Weber

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Ivan Lazar Miljenovic

11:43 p.m.

New subject: community server & hasktags learned recursing into directories

On 5 February 2011 10:14, Luke Palmer wrote:

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I host all my modules on github. It is a very supportive environment for spontaneous collaborative development. c.h.o is a nice place, but lacks in maturity in comparison. As long as there is a complete, free place like github around, why not use it?

1) Github uses git, not darcs. 2) I know who runs/controls c.h.o, but not github (so if something goes wrong...) 3) Maturity? I can put darcs repos there, how mature does it need to be? -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

Mark Wotton

6 Feb 6 Feb

11:43 a.m.

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On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:

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On 5 February 2011 10:14, Luke Palmer wrote:

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I host all my modules on github. It is a very supportive environment for spontaneous collaborative development. c.h.o is a nice place, but lacks in maturity in comparison. As long as there is a complete, free place like github around, why not use it?

1) Github uses git, not darcs.

Git is good enough for serious use.

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2) I know who runs/controls c.h.o, but not github (so if something goes wrong...)

If something goes wrong, the maintainer of c.h.o can commiserate with you about it being down. I suspect he/she doesn't have a large team of dedicated sysadmins to put it right, or a set of redundant servers.

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3) Maturity? I can put darcs repos there, how mature does it need to be?

integrated pull requests, commenting systems, notifications of updates, issue trackers... if you particularly want to use something else for each of these, that's fine, but it's nice to have a reasonable default. mark -- A UNIX signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent of a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets surrounding a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like Heinlein or Dr. Who. -- Chris Maeda

Ivan Lazar Miljenovic

11:53 a.m.

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On 6 February 2011 22:43, Mark Wotton wrote:

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On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:

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On 5 February 2011 10:14, Luke Palmer wrote:

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I host all my modules on github. It is a very supportive environment for spontaneous collaborative development. c.h.o is a nice place, but lacks in maturity in comparison. As long as there is a complete, free place like github around, why not use it?

1) Github uses git, not darcs.

Git is good enough for serious use.

As, I believe, is darcs.

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2) I know who runs/controls c.h.o, but not github (so if something goes wrong...)

If something goes wrong, the maintainer of c.h.o can commiserate with you about it being down. I suspect he/she doesn't have a large team of dedicated sysadmins to put it right, or a set of redundant servers.

There's also the data ownership issue, in that I'm more likely to trust others in the Haskell community than I am from people that make money from the website I'm using.

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3) Maturity? I can put darcs repos there, how mature does it need to be?

integrated pull requests, commenting systems, notifications of updates, issue trackers...

if you particularly want to use something else for each of these, that's fine, but it's nice to have a reasonable default.

*shrug* I don't see the advantage, but admittedly I don't have use for any of these. I more use c.h.o as a place to have a place to store the code for others to look at if they need so, and so I can work both at uni and at home on the same codebase. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

Roman Cheplyaka

5 Feb 5 Feb

1:43 p.m.

New subject: community server & hasktags learned recursing into directories

* Marc Weber [2011-02-04 22:35:53+0000]

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hasktags learned about how to recurse into subdirectories itself.

This is especially useful for windows because writing scripts can be done but is less well known (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4865391/answer/submit)

Thanks for that! I planned to do this some time ago, but hadn't found a way to detect symlink loops portably (or in any way on Windows). Do you handle this problem in any way? -- Roman I. Cheplyaka :: http://ro-che.info/ Don't worry what people think, they don't do it very often.

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