ANNOUNCE: Darcs hacking sprint (15-17 Oct, Orleans)

Hello Haskellers!
The Darcs Team will soon be hosting its fifth hacking sprint
this October. We would be delighted if you could join us.
http://wiki.darcs.net/Sprints/2010-10
Details
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When: 15-17 October 2010
Where: Orleans, France
Who Anybody who wants to hack on Darcs (or Camp, Focal, etc)
Beginners especially welcome!
Why: Darcs aims to have bi-annual hacking sprints so that we can
get together on a regular basis, hold design discussions,
hack up a storm and have a lot fun.
What: We'll be starting work on the next release after the upcoming
Darcs 2.5. Could we see a much fast darcs over networks?
Friendlier darcs annotate? Exciting times ahead...
We intend to set aside at least one Darcs hacker for mentoring
beginners, so if you're new to Haskell or to Darcs hacking,
here's a good chance to plunge in and start working on a real
world project.
How: Email me

Hi list, stumbled across that: http://www.google.com/insights/search/?hl=de#q=haskell&geo=DE&cmpt=q Greetz Daniel

Daniel Kahlenberg schrieb:
Hi list,
stumbled across that: http://www.google.com/insights/search/?hl=de#q=haskell&geo=DE&cmpt=q
Good to know that Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading interest in Haskell. :-) I would like to know, whether this is due to Magdeburg or Halle.

Henning Thielemann
Daniel Kahlenberg schrieb:
Hi list,
stumbled across that: http://www.google.com/insights/search/?hl=de#q=haskell&geo=DE&cmpt=q
Good to know that Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading interest in Haskell. :-) I would like to know, whether this is due to Magdeburg or Halle.
Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading number of Google searches regarding Haskell. This tells nothing about interest. It could just as well mean that people in other states understand Haskell better or go to the proper website (Hackage, Hoogle, etc.) right away instead of taking the indirection of a search engine (or Google in particular). ;) SCNR. Greets, Ertugrul -- nightmare = unsafePerformIO (getWrongWife >>= sex) http://ertes.de/

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading number of Google searches regarding Haskell. This tells nothing about interest. It could just as well mean that people in other states understand Haskell better or go to the proper website (Hackage, Hoogle, etc.) right away instead of taking the indirection of a search engine (or Google in particular). ;)
Google's heading of the section, I'm refering to, is "Regionales Interesse" (regional interest), thus there is no doubt that the numbers are about interest in Haskell and not simply numbers of Google queries. Google must know that better than you! :-P

* Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
Good to know that Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading interest in Haskell. :-) I would like to know, whether this is due to Magdeburg or Halle.
Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading number of Google searches regarding Haskell.
And that means, that the two people playing with Haskell at the university of Halle (located in Saxony-Anhalt) has Internet access an know to use a search engine. Lutz, using good old Altavista via 64kbps in Jena, Thuringia.

Lutz Donnerhacke
* Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
Good to know that Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading interest in Haskell. :-) I would like to know, whether this is due to Magdeburg or Halle.
Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading number of Google searches regarding Haskell.
And that means, that the two people playing with Haskell at the university of Halle (located in Saxony-Anhalt) has Internet access an know to use a search engine.
Lutz, using good old Altavista via 64kbps in Jena, Thuringia.
Funny enough that I've visited Halle (Saxony-Anhalt) and Erfurt (Thuringia) this weekend, ei verbibbsch. Back to my beloved Ludwigsburg now, so wie sich's g'hert. =) Greets, Ertugrul -- nightmare = unsafePerformIO (getWrongWife >>= sex) http://ertes.de/

For what it's worth (which judging from later posts may be nothing), the link "Sachsen-Anhalt" goes to a page with a section "Regionales Interesse" with a nice blue bar line for Magdeburg, and no mention of Halle. On 2010-Aug-17, Henning Thielemann wrote:
Daniel Kahlenberg schrieb:
Hi list,
stumbled across that: http://www.google.com/insights/search/?hl=de#q=haskell&geo=DE&cmpt=q
Good to know that Saxony-Anhalt is the state in Germany with leading interest in Haskell. :-) I would like to know, whether this is due to Magdeburg or Halle.
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Hi, the results given by the same research at the world level is worrisome: the interest in Haskell is steadily declining since 2004. Why was Haskell not successful conquering the hearts? Is it doomed to fail or is there still a chance? http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=haskell&cmpt=q BTW, who would have thought that there is so much Haskellers in Jamaica? Cheers, Sylvain Le samedi 14 août 2010 à 21:23 +0200, Daniel Kahlenberg a écrit :
Hi list,
stumbled across that: http://www.google.com/insights/search/?hl=de#q=haskell&geo=DE&cmpt=q
Greetz Daniel
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2010/8/27 sylvain
Hi,
the results given by the same research at the world level is worrisome: the interest in Haskell is steadily declining since 2004. Why was Haskell not successful conquering the hearts? Is it doomed to fail or is there still a chance?
Compare with http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=programming&cmpt=q or http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=java&cmpt=q So don't worry :)

2010/8/27 sylvain
Hi,
the results given by the same research at the world level is worrisome: the interest in Haskell is steadily declining since 2004. Why was Haskell not successful conquering the hearts? Is it doomed to fail or is there still a chance?
http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=haskell&cmpt=q
BTW, who would have thought that there is so much Haskellers in Jamaica?
Hi, I'm not sure if you're serious or not ... But you do realise Haskell is not a word only used to name some programming language used by fanatic hipsters [0]? Other sources show growing interest in Haskell (much to the dismay of our favorite motto). Cheers, Thu [0] http://www.sdtimes.com/blog/post/2010/07/30/Like-Ruby-n-Rails.aspx

Hello,
I'm not sure if you're serious or not ...
Well, I wasn't, actually. My previous email was an eruption of "second degré" (I guess the closest English term would be irony).
But you do realise Haskell is not a word only used to name some programming language used by fanatic hipsters [0]?
Apart the programming language, I have encountered this term only as a family name. I would find interesting to know if there is a language in which this word exists and has yet another meaning.
Other sources show growing interest in Haskell (much to the dismay of our favorite motto).
Would you accept to refer to these other sources?
Cheers, Greetings, Sylvain

2010/8/28 sylvain
Hello,
I'm not sure if you're serious or not ...
Well, I wasn't, actually. My previous email was an eruption of "second degré" (I guess the closest English term would be irony).
But you do realise Haskell is not a word only used to name some programming language used by fanatic hipsters [0]?
Apart the programming language, I have encountered this term only as a family name. I would find interesting to know if there is a language in which this word exists and has yet another meaning.
Other sources show growing interest in Haskell (much to the dismay of our favorite motto).
Would you accept to refer to these other sources?
I was mainly thinking to the number of people on the #haskell IRC channel, the growing number of packages on Hackage, and the growing number of Haskell-related job announcement. It would be interesting to know some other sources: number of people with Haskell-related repos on Github and other hostings, number of Haskell-related blog owners, number of attendees to e.g. Utrecht summer school on FP, ... Probably blog owners see a rise in the amount of visits they receive on their Haskell-related posts, but that would be also because their particular blog just become more well-known from people already interested in Haskell. Cheers, Thu

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 01:29, Vo Minh Thu wrote:
It would be interesting to know some other sources: [...] number of attendees to e.g. Utrecht summer school on FP, ...
Just a bit over 30, I think. And it was interesting to see a significant number of non-student participants. Perhaps around 20%. As an aside, we had some interesting projects, too. Sokoban in curses, DSP/sound DSL, regex visualization, Bash code escaping, etc. I hope to see some of them appear on Hackage soon. Regards, Sean

2010/8/28 Sean Leather
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 01:29, Vo Minh Thu wrote:
It would be interesting to know some other sources: [...] number of attendees to e.g. Utrecht summer school on FP, ...
Just a bit over 30, I think. And it was interesting to see a significant number of non-student participants. Perhaps around 20%.
As an aside, we had some interesting projects, too. Sokoban in curses, DSP/sound DSL, regex visualization, Bash code escaping, etc. I hope to see some of them appear on Hackage soon.
That's the kind of aside that are so interesting. Please (fell free to) share some more insight of it in your blog if you've some time :) Cheers, Thu

On 27/08/10 23:45, sylvain wrote:
Other sources show growing interest in Haskell (much to the dismay of our favorite motto).
Would you accept to refer to these other sources?
One interesting one is http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/haskell.do Paul.

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:45:23 +0200, sylvain
Apart the programming language, I have encountered this term only as a family name. I would find interesting to know if there is a language in which this word exists and has yet another meaning.
It is amongst others the name of a city in Arkansas, several counties in the USA, the first name of Haskell B. Curry and it occurs in the name of shops, like Haskell's . There are several street names, like Haskell Street, Haskell Lane, Haskell Avenue. Try Google earth, it list nine locations with Haskell in the name. Furthermore, there are the "Haskell Free Library and Opera House", the "Haskell Indian Nations University", the "Haskell Invitational Handicap" and the "Haskell Oriental Museum". Regards, Henk-Jan van Tuyl -- http://Van.Tuyl.eu/ http://members.chello.nl/hjgtuyl/tourdemonad.html --

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:45:23 +0200, sylvain
Apart the programming language, I have encountered this term only as a family name. I would find interesting to know if there is a language in which this word exists and has yet another meaning.
It is amongst others the name of a city in Arkansas, several counties in the USA, the first name of Haskell B. Curry and it occurs in the name of shops, like Haskell's . There are several street names, like Haskell Street, Haskell Lane, Haskell Avenue. Try Google earth, it list nine locations with Haskell in the name. Furthermore, there are the "Haskell Free Library and Opera House", the "Haskell Indian Nations University", the "Haskell Invitational Handicap" and the "Haskell Oriental Museum". Regards, Henk-Jan van Tuyl -- http://Van.Tuyl.eu/ http://members.chello.nl/hjgtuyl/tourdemonad.html --

On Friday 27 August 2010 16:54:09, sylvain wrote:
Hi,
the results given by the same research at the world level is worrisome: the interest in Haskell is steadily declining since 2004. Why was Haskell not successful conquering the hearts? Is it doomed to fail or is there still a chance?
I particularly like "Haskell the hero as England beat Wales". Official hero staus from the Brisbane Times, yay!

Daniel Fischer wrote:
On Friday 27 August 2010 16:54:09, sylvain wrote:
Hi,
the results given by the same research at the world level is worrisome: the interest in Haskell is steadily declining since 2004. Why was Haskell not successful conquering the hearts? Is it doomed to fail or is there still a chance?
I particularly like "Haskell the hero as England beat Wales".
Official hero staus from the Brisbane Times, yay!
I'm curious about exactly how England used Haskell to beat Wales. I'm guessing it's something to do with using monads to deal with sheep[*]. Anton [*] http://www.haskell.org/all_about_monads/html/meet.html

It's curious, if you search for PHP, Java, SQL, HTML or Javascript, all of
them show that they are declining.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Anton van Straaten
Daniel Fischer wrote:
On Friday 27 August 2010 16:54:09, sylvain wrote:
Hi,
the results given by the same research at the world level is worrisome: the interest in Haskell is steadily declining since 2004. Why was Haskell not successful conquering the hearts? Is it doomed to fail or is there still a chance?
I particularly like "Haskell the hero as England beat Wales".
Official hero staus from the Brisbane Times, yay!
I'm curious about exactly how England used Haskell to beat Wales. I'm guessing it's something to do with using monads to deal with sheep[*].
Anton
[*] http://www.haskell.org/all_about_monads/html/meet.html
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participants (17)
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Anton van Straaten
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Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
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Daniel Fischer
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Daniel Kahlenberg
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Eric Kow
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Ertugrul Soeylemez
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Federico Mastellone
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gdweber@iue.edu
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Henk-Jan van Tuyl
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Henning Thielemann
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Henning Thielemann
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Lutz Donnerhacke
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Paul Johnson
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Sean Leather
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sylvain
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Vo Minh Thu
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Yuras Shumovich