On 16 February 2010 14:45, Don Stewart wrote:

ivan.miljenovic:

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On 16 February 2010 08:35, Don Stewart wrote:

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Enjoy the new decade of flexible, fusible, fast arrays for Haskell!

/me points out that 2010 is actually the last year of the decade, and not the first year of a new decade...

Computer scientists count from zero. :-)

Except that the current numbering system to record the number of revolutions that our planet has revolved around the nearest solar body was not devised by computer scientists... -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com Charles de Gaulle - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html

Wikipedia claims in short that "Year Zero is the year before 1 A.D. used in astronomical calculations.". In full: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_zero Seems like no calendar, other than astronomical things include it. On 16 February 2010 04:32, Richard O'Keefe wrote:

On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

On 16 February 2010 14:45, Don Stewart wrote:

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ivan.miljenovic:

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On 16 February 2010 08:35, Don Stewart wrote:

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Enjoy the new decade of flexible, fusible, fast arrays for Haskell!

/me points out that 2010 is actually the last year of the decade, and not the first year of a new decade...

Computer scientists count from zero. :-)

Except that the current numbering system to record the number of revolutions that our planet has revolved around the nearest solar body was not devised by computer scientists...

I'm not sure what kind of people are responsible for ISO 8601, but the ISO calendar, mandated by several programming language standards including ANSI Smalltalk, uses something called the "proleptic Gregorian calendar" (ISO 8601) or the "retrospective Gregorian calendar" (ANSI Smalltalk), which includes a year zero. Although 1AD was preceded by 1BC, 1CE is preceded by 0CE.

Given that Europe got the concept of zero from the Muslims, I wonder whether the Muslim calendar(s) has(have) a year 0?

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

On 16 February 2010 08:35, Don Stewart wrote:

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Enjoy the new decade of flexible, fusible, fast arrays for Haskell!

/me points out that 2010 is actually the last year of the decade, and not the first year of a new decade...

Hm, I'm not sure about that; while it's fairly established that millenniums are 1-indexed (as there was no "Year 0" ... silly Gregorian calendar), it seems that decades are 0-indexed (e.g., "the 80s"). Unfortunately neither of my go-to usage guides (_Garner's Modern American Usage_ and _The Chicago Manual of Style_) says much on the topic. :p

On 17 February 2010 01:26, Martijn van Steenbergen wrote:

Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

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On 16 February 2010 08:35, Don Stewart wrote:

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Enjoy the new decade of flexible, fusible, fast arrays for Haskell!

/me points out that 2010 is actually the last year of the decade, and not the first year of a new decade...

There certainly is /a/ decade that starts today. :-)

Well, yes. By the way, I'm celebrating New Year's Eve in 12 days time; anyone want to join me? :p -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com Stephen Leacock - "I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some day die, which is not so." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html