Left fold enumerator - a real pearl overlooked?

Hi all, in the last few months I was looking for haskell database library, eventually settling for HDBC (thanks John btw). Takusen also caught my eye although I even failed installing it. Nevertheless a particular property of takusen, left-fold-enumerator, also sparked my interest and I tried to follow it up. I had the impression this is something of relevance but something that is not mentioned or made use of often. There are actually only a few references on the net and most of those by one person only, Oleg. There was one post from John Goerzen about Haskell HTTP libraries in which he hinted using left-fold enumerators. Anyway what I'm saying is that the whole topic is somewhat off the radar of the larger haskell community, how come, or am I merely overestimating its relevance and usefulness? Günther

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Gü?nther Schmidt
Hi all,
in the last few months I was looking for haskell database library, eventually settling for HDBC (thanks John btw).
Takusen also caught my eye although I even failed installing it.
Nevertheless a particular property of takusen, left-fold-enumerator, also sparked my interest and I tried to follow it up.
I had the impression this is something of relevance but something that is not mentioned or made use of often. There are actually only a few references on the net and most of those by one person only, Oleg.
There was one post from John Goerzen about Haskell HTTP libraries in which he hinted using left-fold enumerators.
Anyway what I'm saying is that the whole topic is somewhat off the radar of the larger haskell community, how come, or am I merely overestimating its relevance and usefulness?
A couple of people (me included) have been discussing different possible designs outside this mailing list. I think we're getting a better understanding of the design space but I feel like there's more to be discovered which is probably the reason none of us have release a library that makes use of left fold enumerators. Cheers, Johan

Can someone point us to some resources about these? I for one have not heard
of them before
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Johan Tibell
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Gü?nther Schmidt
wrote: Hi all,
in the last few months I was looking for haskell database library, eventually settling for HDBC (thanks John btw).
Takusen also caught my eye although I even failed installing it.
Nevertheless a particular property of takusen, left-fold-enumerator, also sparked my interest and I tried to follow it up.
I had the impression this is something of relevance but something that is not mentioned or made use of often. There are actually only a few references on the net and most of those by one person only, Oleg.
There was one post from John Goerzen about Haskell HTTP libraries in which he hinted using left-fold enumerators.
Anyway what I'm saying is that the whole topic is somewhat off the radar of the larger haskell community, how come, or am I merely overestimating its relevance and usefulness?
A couple of people (me included) have been discussing different possible designs outside this mailing list. I think we're getting a better understanding of the design space but I feel like there's more to be discovered which is probably the reason none of us have release a library that makes use of left fold enumerators.
Cheers,
Johan _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Can someone point us to some resources about these? I for one have not heard of them before
http://okmij.org/ftp/Streams.html#iteratee is probably the best place to start. Jamie

Hi all, thanks again for the explanation. So I have the impression that this approach is something with recognized merit but in a way still considered work in progress as I do not really see it advertised for the general haskell audience. And there are some that study it further. Ok. My question now is: "Where do we take this from here?". Oleg seems to have published what he had to say on this years ago, takusen and hyena *use* it and beyond that there is only the occasional thread like this one. Anybody willing to take action so this stays on the radar? Günther
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Andrew Wagner
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Gü?nther Schmidt
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Jamie Brandon
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Johan Tibell