I'd already found a lot of these links and tried some of their suggestions, without any success. Does anyone who posts here actually use it (what platform)? Michael --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote: From: Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:57 PM michael rice writes:

I downloaded XMonad from the Fedora 12 repository and would like to see it in action.

What must I do to get it working from the Gnome desktop environment?

See the associated documentation at http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

Well, for starters the Fedora entry for installing XMonad is blank/empty: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Installing_xmonad#Fedora Some things I've done: I set up a .xmonad directory in my home directory with this xmonad.hs [michael@localhost ~]$ cat ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs     --     -- An example, simple ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs file.     -- It overrides a few basic settings, reusing all the other defaults.     --     import XMonad     main = xmonad $ defaultConfig         { borderWidth        = 2         , terminal           = "urxvt"         , normalBorderColor  = "#cccccc"         , focusedBorderColor = "#cd8b00" } [michael@localhost ~]$ I set up a .xsession directory in my home directory with this in it [michael@localhost ~]$ cat .xsession export WINDOW_MANAGER="/usr/bin/xmonad" exec gnome-session [michael@localhost ~]$ Because supposedly X doesn't even check .xsession file without having xorg-x11-xinit-session installed, I also downloaded that. I set up a XMonad.desktop file in /usr/share/applications directory [michael@localhost ~]$ cat /usr/share/applications/Xmonad.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Xmonad # change this path according to your xmonad binary Exec=/usr/bin/xmonad NoDisplay=true X-GNOME-WMName=Xmonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla=XMonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product=xmonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=general X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase=WindowManager X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager X-GNOME-Autostart-Notify=true [michael@localhost ~]$ I added /usr/bin/xmonad to startup applications. All these things were suggested. Michael --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Stewart wrote: From: Don Stewart Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: "Ivan Lazar Miljenovic" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:30 PM nowgate:

I'd already found a lot of these links and tried some of their suggestions, without any success. Does anyone who posts here actually use it (what platform)?

What's the problem exactly? -- Don

Perhaps. Is there a Linux distro that's more XMonad friendly? Michael --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote: From: Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: "Don Stewart" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:26 PM Oh, is Fedora still using a version of GDM that doesn't let you use a custom .Xsession (or even remember that you want to use something that isn't called "Gnome")? michael rice writes:

Well, for starters the Fedora entry for installing XMonad is blank/empty: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Installing_xmonad#Fedora

Some things I've done:

I set up a .xmonad directory in my home directory with this xmonad.hs

[michael@localhost ~]$ cat ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs     --     -- An example, simple ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs file.     -- It overrides a few basic settings, reusing all the other defaults.     --

    import XMonad

    main = xmonad $ defaultConfig         { borderWidth        = 2         , terminal           = "urxvt"         , normalBorderColor  = "#cccccc"         , focusedBorderColor = "#cd8b00" }

[michael@localhost ~]$

I set up a .xsession directory in my home directory with this in it

[michael@localhost ~]$ cat .xsession export WINDOW_MANAGER="/usr/bin/xmonad" exec gnome-session

[michael@localhost ~]$

Because supposedly X doesn't even check .xsession file without having xorg-x11-xinit-session installed, I also downloaded that.

I set up a XMonad.desktop file in /usr/share/applications directory

[michael@localhost ~]$ cat /usr/share/applications/Xmonad.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Xmonad # change this path according to your xmonad binary Exec=/usr/bin/xmonad NoDisplay=true X-GNOME-WMName=Xmonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla=XMonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product=xmonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=general X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase=WindowManager X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager X-GNOME-Autostart-Notify=true [michael@localhost ~]$

I added /usr/bin/xmonad to startup applications.

All these things were suggested.

Michael

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Stewart wrote:

From: Don Stewart Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: "Ivan Lazar Miljenovic" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:30 PM

nowgate:

...

I'd already found a lot of these links and tried some of their suggestions, without any success. Does anyone who posts here actually use it (what platform)?

What's the problem exactly?

-- Don

       

-- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

For a completely different approach, I've had good success running xmonad from either Ubuntu minimal (which is a bare-bones version of Ubuntu that few people realize exists) or Arch Linux. In either case you have to spend more time setting up the system, but the results IMO are worth it. I don't use gdm but use a customized .xinitrc script which I invoke myself through startx. Mike John Millikin wrote:

I've been quite happy with Ubuntu's xmonad package, though I run it within a GNOME session.

Have you tried the instructions on the XMonad wiki for inter-operating with GNOME? http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Gnome

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 13:40, michael rice wrote:

...

Perhaps. Is there a Linux distro that's more XMonad friendly?

Michael

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:

From: Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: "Don Stewart" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:26 PM

Oh, is Fedora still using a version of GDM that doesn't let you use a custom .Xsession (or even remember that you want to use something that isn't called "Gnome")?

michael rice writes:

...

Well, for starters the Fedora entry for installing XMonad is blank/empty: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Installing_xmonad#Fedora

Some things I've done:

I set up a .xmonad directory in my home directory with this xmonad.hs

[michael@localhost ~]$ cat ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs -- -- An example, simple ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs file. -- It overrides a few basic settings, reusing all the other defaults. --

import XMonad

main = xmonad $ defaultConfig { borderWidth = 2 , terminal = "urxvt" , normalBorderColor = "#cccccc" , focusedBorderColor = "#cd8b00" }

[michael@localhost ~]$

I set up a .xsession directory in my home directory with this in it

[michael@localhost ~]$ cat .xsession export WINDOW_MANAGER="/usr/bin/xmonad" exec gnome-session

[michael@localhost ~]$

Because supposedly X doesn't even check .xsession file without having xorg-x11-xinit-session installed, I also downloaded that.

I set up a XMonad.desktop file in /usr/share/applications directory

[michael@localhost ~]$ cat /usr/share/applications/Xmonad.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Xmonad # change this path according to your xmonad binary Exec=/usr/bin/xmonad NoDisplay=true X-GNOME-WMName=Xmonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla=XMonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product=xmonad X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=general X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase=WindowManager X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager X-GNOME-Autostart-Notify=true [michael@localhost ~]$

I added /usr/bin/xmonad to startup applications.

All these things were suggested.

Michael

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Stewart wrote:

From: Don Stewart Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: "Ivan Lazar Miljenovic" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 3:30 PM

nowgate:

...

I'd already found a lot of these links and tried some of their suggestions, without any success. Does anyone who posts here actually use it (what platform)?

What's the problem exactly?

-- Don

-- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

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How did you configure it? Are you still using it? Michael --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Chaddaï Fouché wrote: From: Chaddaï Fouché Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "John Millikin" Cc: "michael rice" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:18 AM On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:53 PM, John Millikin wrote:

I've been quite happy with Ubuntu's xmonad package, though I run it within a GNOME session.

Have you tried the instructions on the XMonad wiki for inter-operating with GNOME? http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Gnome

I myself had such a setup (Xmonad in Gnome on Ubuntu) for more than a year and it really was quite good. XMonad works quite well with KDE/Gnome or other major desktops. -- Jedaï

Hi Ketil, I was just looking around and found this: http://xwinman.org/ No mention of XMonad here, even under the "Other" category. I got it running but it became unresponsive as soon as I deleted a window, and instead of tiling newly opened windows it just displayed them in the top left corner, obscuring what was already there (possibly the way it's supposed to work?). But the XMonad video I watched on YouTube looked interesting enough to pursue it further, so I'm in research mode. Thanks, Michael --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Ketil Malde wrote: From: Ketil Malde Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: "Ivan Lazar Miljenovic" , haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 1:20 AM michael rice writes:

Perhaps. Is there a Linux distro that's more XMonad friendly?

I use Ubuntu, in the GDM login screen, I get a drop down menu that includes Xmonad as an option.  Even if Fedora doesn't have this, it probably has a "Failsafe" option that will just give you an xterm, from which you can run xmonad manually? -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

michael rice writes:

I'd already found a lot of these links and tried some of their suggestions, without any success. Does anyone who posts here actually use it (what platform)?

Note that XMonad has its own dedicated mailing list as well...

Michael

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:

From: Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Having a look at XMonad window manager To: "michael rice" Cc: haskell-cafe@haskell.org Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:57 PM

michael rice writes:

...

I downloaded XMonad from the Fedora 12 repository and would like to see it in action.

What must I do to get it working from the Gnome desktop environment?

See the associated documentation at http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad

-- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com