Hi, on planet.debian.org, there is some ill-tempered discussion about the seemingly bad relationship between the Ruby community and Debian maintainers. The following blog post summarizes the issues quite well and calmly: http://gwolf.org/blog/ruby-dissonance-debian-again With the Haskell community, luckily the relationship is much better. But since the technical situation is similar, i.e. a custom distribution channel via hackage/cabal-install, the possibility to install multiple versions of a package at once, I thought this might still be an interesting read. I hope this improves the understanding of a distribution’s needs and why we don’t like multiple versions of one package or a splitting in too many single small packages. But let me stress that I’m very happy with the interaction of the communities, Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner mail: mail@joachim-breitner.de | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Key: 4743206C JID: nomeata@joachim-breitner.de | http://www.joachim-breitner.de/ Debian Developer: nomeata@debian.org
Joachim Breitner wrote:
on planet.debian.org, there is some ill-tempered discussion about the seemingly bad relationship between the Ruby community and Debian maintainers. The following blog post summarizes the issues quite well and calmly: http://gwolf.org/blog/ruby-dissonance-debian-again
(The link doesn't seem to work, only http://gwolf.org/blog is available.) Regards, Heinrich Apfelmus -- http://apfelmus.nfshost.com
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:15, Heinrich Apfelmus
Joachim Breitner wrote:
on planet.debian.org, there is some ill-tempered discussion about the seemingly bad relationship between the Ruby community and Debian maintainers. The following blog post summarizes the issues quite well and calmly: http://gwolf.org/blog/ruby-dissonance-debian-again
(The link doesn't seem to work, only http://gwolf.org/blog is available.)
It did work yesterday, but is gone today. Anyway, here's a copy of it http://www.debianblogs.com/ruby_dissonance_with_debian_again /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2010, 11:15 +0200 schrieb Heinrich Apfelmus:
Joachim Breitner wrote:
on planet.debian.org, there is some ill-tempered discussion about the seemingly bad relationship between the Ruby community and Debian maintainers. The following blog post summarizes the issues quite well and calmly: http://gwolf.org/blog/ruby-dissonance-debian-again
(The link doesn't seem to work, only http://gwolf.org/blog is available.)
I’m attaching the entry as it was produced by feed2imap. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner mail: mail@joachim-breitner.de | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Key: 4743206C JID: nomeata@joachim-breitner.de | http://www.joachim-breitner.de/ Debian Developer: nomeata@debian.org
On 30 September 2010 23:06, Joachim Breitner
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2010, 11:15 +0200 schrieb Heinrich Apfelmus:
Joachim Breitner wrote:
on planet.debian.org, there is some ill-tempered discussion about the seemingly bad relationship between the Ruby community and Debian maintainers. The following blog post summarizes the issues quite well and calmly: http://gwolf.org/blog/ruby-dissonance-debian-again
(The link doesn't seem to work, only http://gwolf.org/blog is available.)
I’m attaching the entry as it was produced by feed2imap.
I did have a read through all that and have discussed it with a ruby developer I know. My understanding is that the biggest difference here between the Ruby and Haskell developer communities is that they try to push through the whole "release early and release often" mantra to the extreme, whereas we typically try to support as many versions as possible. Furthermore, we _try_ (and keep discussing how to improve testing and detection for this) to specify API breakage via version numbers, etc. and to keep such breakage to a minimum. For another set of distro maintainer woes regarding Ruby, have a read through Diego Elio “Flameeyes” Pettenò's (a Gentoo developer) blog entries: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/tag/ruby -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com
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