Reddit is not moderated. But there is a difference between the new links and the top links. There you are : http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/comments/7ijor/a_library_or_embedd... (upmodded) Benjamin L.Russell wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:34:20 -0800, Don Stewart wrote:

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I'd like to echo Jason's remarks earlier.

http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/

We've tried for a couple of years now to efficiently track 'wanted libraries' for the community, but never with much success.

In particular, two approaches have been tried:

* a wiki page * the 200{6,7,8} summer of code trac

neither proved workable long term, likely because no one knew about them, they're harder to contribute to and other factors.

Now I know there's a lot of spare Haskell capacity in this community. 3000 mailing list readers, but only 70 new libraries a week being uploaded to Hackage --- that's not how we take over the world!

So this is your chance to contribute:

* propose new libraries, and explain why you'd want them * vote on things you'd like to see * pick up tasks that sound interesting

Let's try to make this work!

After just registering and proposing "A library (or "embedded language") for interactive animations with 2D and 3D graphics and sound to replace Fran," thirteen minutes have passed, but my proposal hasn't appeared yet.

Is your proposal list at http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/ moderated?

-- Benjamin L. Russell

I'm working on this now. R-Tree, not Oct-tree, but it'll be there soon. Also working on GDAL/OGR bindings. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Neal Alexander wrote:

Don Stewart wrote:

...

I'd like to echo Jason's remarks earlier.

http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/

We've tried for a couple of years now to efficiently track 'wanted libraries' for the community, but never with much success.

In particular, two approaches have been tried:

* a wiki page * the 200{6,7,8} summer of code trac

neither proved workable long term, likely because no one knew about them, they're harder to contribute to and other factors.

Now I know there's a lot of spare Haskell capacity in this community. 3000 mailing list readers, but only 70 new libraries a week being uploaded to Hackage --- that's not how we take over the world!

So this is your chance to contribute:

* propose new libraries, and explain why you'd want them * vote on things you'd like to see * pick up tasks that sound interesting

Let's try to make this work!

-- Don

A library for spatial data structures would be nice (Octree etc).

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On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Josef Svenningsson < josef.svenningsson@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Don Stewart wrote:

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I'd like to echo Jason's remarks earlier.

http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/

We've tried for a couple of years now to efficiently track 'wanted libraries' for the community, but never with much success.

In particular, two approaches have been tried:

* a wiki page * the 200{6,7,8} summer of code trac

neither proved workable long term, likely because no one knew about them, they're harder to contribute to and other factors.

I think this is a wonderful initiative, but I can't shake the feeling that reddit is the wrong forum for this. Since reddit is primarily a news site it penalises old submissions and eventually moves them out of the front page. I can't see how that behavior is good for our purposes here. A project proposal that has a thousand upvotes shouldn't be moved from the list just because the proposal itself is old.

This isn't entirely true. Just go to "top" items instead of the 'hot' items, which are age-penalized. For example, the DMCA article from one year ago is 2nd on proggit: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/top/ But I do agree that using reddit is not the right method - under the assumption that its popularity is ever increasing the items on the hot page will naturally collect more votes than older items, and thus even the 'top' page is age-biased. The wiki we already had would be best in my mind, but people just didn't use it despite a couple ML postings about it. If we want something that works in the long run we want something like

reddit but without the "aging" of old submissions. I don't know of any such thing but there's bound to be one, this being the internet after all.

Cheers,

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"Jason Dusek" writes:

I think you are overlooking the Web 2.0 aspect of this.

I've been wondering what reddit brings to the table that makes it worth keeping track of yet another web site, registering yet another user account, learning yet another interface. Assuming you're not just being sarcastic about buzzword compliance, would you - or somebody else - care to elaborate a little bit what the advantage is here? -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

josef.svenningsson:

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Don Stewart wrote:

...

I'd like to echo Jason's remarks earlier.

http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/

We've tried for a couple of years now to efficiently track 'wanted libraries' for the community, but never with much success.

In particular, two approaches have been tried:

* a wiki page * the 200{6,7,8} summer of code trac

neither proved workable long term, likely because no one knew about them, they're harder to contribute to and other factors.

I think this is a wonderful initiative, but I can't shake the feeling that reddit is the wrong forum for this. Since reddit is primarily a news site it penalises old submissions and eventually moves them out of the front page. I can't see how that behavior is good for our purposes here. A project proposal that has a thousand upvotes shouldn't be moved from the list just because the proposal itself is old.

If we want something that works in the long run we want something like reddit but without the "aging" of old submissions. I don't know of any such thing but there's bound to be one, this being the internet after all.

As Thomas said, the 'top' page is what we're looking for. I'm not really interested in the actual number of votes, more in how cheap it is to add ideas, and the discussion that ensues. -- Don