If you go to http://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?l0=haskell&measure=projects and look at the number (not percentage) of Haskell projects you see it rise exponentially until the start of 2008 and then suddenly drop away. Does anyone know what happened? Assuming this is just an artefact because they aren't scanning Haskell project hosts, can we get them to fix it? I'd like to use this kind of graph at work as evidence that Haskell is on a growth trajectory. Paul.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Johnson
If you go to http://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?l0=haskell&measure=projects and look at the number (not percentage) of Haskell projects you see it rise exponentially until the start of 2008 and then suddenly drop away. Does anyone know what happened? Assuming this is just an artefact because they aren't scanning Haskell project hosts, can we get them to fix it?
I believe in early 2008 Don Stewart was on a kick where he used tailor to convert Darcs repos of Haskell projects to Git repos (which Ohloh understands), and he's stopped doing that. The fix would involve making their software understand darcs; their response hasn't been too enthusiastic or helpful (basically, 'if you guys do all the work and meet our idiosyncratic standards, maybe we'll use it'): http://www.ohloh.net/forums/3491/topics/1138?page=2
I'd like to use this kind of graph at work as evidence that Haskell is on a growth trajectory.
Paul.
-- gwern
paul:
If you go to http://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?l0=haskell&measure=projects and look at the number (not percentage) of Haskell projects you see it rise exponentially until the start of 2008 and then suddenly drop away. Does anyone know what happened? Assuming this is just an artefact because they aren't scanning Haskell project hosts, can we get them to fix it?
They aren't scanning darcs repos, and I stopped doing nightly cron job conversions from git to darcs. In that time, the number of haskell projects has grown fairly rapidly: http://galois.com/~dons/images/hackage-daily-graph.png (daily upload moving average). It took off in 2008. -- Don
paul:
I'd like to use this kind of graph at work as evidence that Haskell is on a growth trajectory.
You might be more interested in data from Hackage: http://www.galois.com/blog/2009/03/23/one-million-haskell-downloads/ runched when we passed the 1M downloads mark a year ago (closer to 2M downloads now). We've also got just shy of 2000 packages on Hackage, up from 1100 a year ago (~3 new packages a day) -- Don
On 19/02/10 22:31, Don Stewart wrote:
paul:
I'd like to use this kind of graph at work as evidence that Haskell is on a growth trajectory.
You might be more interested in data from Hackage:
http://www.galois.com/blog/2009/03/23/one-million-haskell-downloads/
runched when we passed the 1M downloads mark a year ago (closer to 2M downloads now).
We've also got just shy of 2000 packages on Hackage, up from 1100 a year ago (~3 new packages a day)
Thanks Don. I've already used this data in presentations. I don't want to use the Hackage upload graph you posted because a) its got more to do with the growth of Hackage than the growth of Haskell, and b) it levels off. I need something with more visual punch. This is always a problem, related to the "Why is Haskell so little used in Industry" question. Decision makers use a simple chain of reasoning: I've never heard of it => academic language => can't hire programmers => unsupportable software. Maybe I should write a "guide to Haskell advocacy in the workplace". Would there be any interest?
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