
Greetings, I would like to take over the setlocale package. Following the steps described on http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package I need to state my intention on a public forum. The original author (Lukas Mai) published his package in the Public Domain. This would be fine, but the Author seems to be living in Germany. The problem with that is that in Germany an author is not allowed to give up his copyright in this way. This means the licensing of the package defaults to "All rights reserved", making the package undistributable. I already tried to contact the author about this problem, but he didn't respond in a week. This isn't a very long time, but I didn't get an answer on past attempts to contact him (this was at least a month, but probably more, ago). To solve this problem, I rewrote the setlocale binding with the same API under the BSD3-clause. PS: Please keep the CC to Lukas Mai and the debian-haskell list intact. Regards Sven

a) thats not how taking over maintainer ship works b) http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package taking over a package without the maintainers permission requires the maintainer being unreachable for 6-12 months (or longer) On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Sven Bartscher < sven.bartscher@weltraumschlangen.de> wrote:
Greetings,
I would like to take over the setlocale package. Following the steps described on http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package I need to state my intention on a public forum.
The original author (Lukas Mai) published his package in the Public Domain. This would be fine, but the Author seems to be living in Germany. The problem with that is that in Germany an author is not allowed to give up his copyright in this way. This means the licensing of the package defaults to "All rights reserved", making the package undistributable.
I already tried to contact the author about this problem, but he didn't respond in a week. This isn't a very long time, but I didn't get an answer on past attempts to contact him (this was at least a month, but probably more, ago).
To solve this problem, I rewrote the setlocale binding with the same API under the BSD3-clause.
PS: Please keep the CC to Lukas Mai and the debian-haskell list intact.
Regards Sven
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On 7/9/14, 5:56 PM, Carter Schonwald wrote:
a) thats not how taking over maintainer ship works b) http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package
taking over a package without the maintainers permission requires the maintainer being unreachable for 6-12 months (or longer)
The guideline there is "a reasonable time". That is much closer to 1 month than 6-12 months. I think one week is a bit short, but overall sven seems to be following the process well, and given the last update date on that package, we should still give a reasonable time to respond, but I would err on the side of brevity if anything. --Gershom
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Sven Bartscher
mailto:sven.bartscher@weltraumschlangen.de> wrote: Greetings,
I would like to take over the setlocale package. Following the steps described on http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package I need to state my intention on a public forum.
The original author (Lukas Mai) published his package in the Public Domain. This would be fine, but the Author seems to be living in Germany. The problem with that is that in Germany an author is not allowed to give up his copyright in this way. This means the licensing of the package defaults to "All rights reserved", making the package undistributable.
I already tried to contact the author about this problem, but he didn't respond in a week. This isn't a very long time, but I didn't get an answer on past attempts to contact him (this was at least a month, but probably more, ago).
To solve this problem, I rewrote the setlocale binding with the same API under the BSD3-clause.
PS: Please keep the CC to Lukas Mai and the debian-haskell list intact.
Regards Sven
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Another issue with the package was also came up recently here:
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2014-June/023157.html
Regards,
Adam
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Gershom Bazerman
On 7/9/14, 5:56 PM, Carter Schonwald wrote:
a) thats not how taking over maintainer ship works b) http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package
taking over a package without the maintainers permission requires the maintainer being unreachable for 6-12 months (or longer)
The guideline there is "a reasonable time". That is much closer to 1 month than 6-12 months. I think one week is a bit short, but overall sven seems to be following the process well, and given the last update date on that package, we should still give a reasonable time to respond, but I would err on the side of brevity if anything.
--Gershom
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Sven Bartscher
wrote: Greetings,
I would like to take over the setlocale package. Following the steps described on http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package I need to state my intention on a public forum.
The original author (Lukas Mai) published his package in the Public Domain. This would be fine, but the Author seems to be living in Germany. The problem with that is that in Germany an author is not allowed to give up his copyright in this way. This means the licensing of the package defaults to "All rights reserved", making the package undistributable.
I already tried to contact the author about this problem, but he didn't respond in a week. This isn't a very long time, but I didn't get an answer on past attempts to contact him (this was at least a month, but probably more, ago).
To solve this problem, I rewrote the setlocale binding with the same API under the BSD3-clause.
PS: Please keep the CC to Lukas Mai and the debian-haskell list intact.
Regards Sven
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 20:06:10 -0400
Gershom Bazerman
On 7/9/14, 5:56 PM, Carter Schonwald wrote: The guideline there is "a reasonable time". That is much closer to 1 month than 6-12 months. I think one week is a bit short, but overall sven seems to be following the process well, and given the last update date on that package, we should still give a reasonable time to respond, but I would err on the side of brevity if anything.
Greetings, It's now longer than a months ago, that I send the first post about this. I think this is a reasonable time to respond for the maintainer. Are there still any objections or can I now contact admin@hackage.debian.org? Regards Sven
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Sven Bartscher
mailto:sven.bartscher@weltraumschlangen.de> wrote: Greetings,
I would like to take over the setlocale package. Following the steps described on http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Taking_over_a_package I need to state my intention on a public forum.
The original author (Lukas Mai) published his package in the Public Domain. This would be fine, but the Author seems to be living in Germany. The problem with that is that in Germany an author is not allowed to give up his copyright in this way. This means the licensing of the package defaults to "All rights reserved", making the package undistributable.
I already tried to contact the author about this problem, but he didn't respond in a week. This isn't a very long time, but I didn't get an answer on past attempts to contact him (this was at least a month, but probably more, ago).
To solve this problem, I rewrote the setlocale binding with the same API under the BSD3-clause.
PS: Please keep the CC to Lukas Mai and the debian-haskell list intact.
Regards Sven

Dear Sven, Am Mittwoch, den 09.07.2014, 23:33 +0200 schrieb Sven Bartscher:
To solve this problem, I rewrote the setlocale binding with the same API under the BSD3-clause.
thanks for that. Can you, independently of the hackage process, upload that package to Debian, so that hgettext works again? I guess you’ll want to leave out the Homepage field for now, to not make false pretenses, but if it is API compatible there is nothing wrong with Debian providing a different package, if the original one is unusable. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Developer nomeata@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: F0FBF51F JID: nomeata@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
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adam vogt
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Carter Schonwald
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Gershom Bazerman
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Joachim Breitner
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Sven Bartscher