Re: [Haskell-cafe] Practical use of Stream's monad instance?

As someone else on this list whose name I don't recall put it, there is no choice on whether to make Stream a monad or not. It simply _is_ a monad. Anyone with some CS education hearing 'diagonal of inifinite list of infinite lists' should immediately think of Georg Cantor. import Data.Stream import Data.Ratio type Real = Stream Rational -- approximate a real number by an ascending stream -- of lower bounds. supremum :: Stream Real -> Real supremum = join -- If a stream of reals is index-wise ascending, -- the monad instance for Stream computes its supremum. -- Use this e.g. to compute any mathematical quantity -- defined as a supremum. -- Olaf

Indeed, the question is not wherever it's a monad or not, just to what
extent is the monad useful.
Dne po 11. 7. 2016 22:08 uživatel Olaf Klinke
As someone else on this list whose name I don't recall put it, there is no choice on whether to make Stream a monad or not. It simply _is_ a monad. Anyone with some CS education hearing 'diagonal of inifinite list of infinite lists' should immediately think of Georg Cantor.
import Data.Stream import Data.Ratio
type Real = Stream Rational -- approximate a real number by an ascending stream -- of lower bounds.
supremum :: Stream Real -> Real supremum = join -- If a stream of reals is index-wise ascending, -- the monad instance for Stream computes its supremum. -- Use this e.g. to compute any mathematical quantity -- defined as a supremum.
-- Olaf

Hi Petr.
As Tom hinted, Stream is isomorphic to function-from-Nat (Peano/lazy
natural numbers), being the memoized (trie) representation of such
functions. The Stream Monad instance corresponds to the function-from-a
Monad ("reader") instance, so all such trie Monad instances are useful
wherever we want to work monadically with functions but want memoization.
I like Olaf's example use as well: 'fmap not . join' constructs a stream of
binary representations of numbers in [0,1] that disagrees with every
element of any given enumeration of such numbers. A very terse
demonstration of a profoundly important mathematical discovery.
- Conal
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Petr Pudlák
Indeed, the question is not wherever it's a monad or not, just to what extent is the monad useful.
Dne po 11. 7. 2016 22:08 uživatel Olaf Klinke
napsal: As someone else on this list whose name I don't recall put it, there is no choice on whether to make Stream a monad or not. It simply _is_ a monad. Anyone with some CS education hearing 'diagonal of inifinite list of infinite lists' should immediately think of Georg Cantor.
import Data.Stream import Data.Ratio
type Real = Stream Rational -- approximate a real number by an ascending stream -- of lower bounds.
supremum :: Stream Real -> Real supremum = join -- If a stream of reals is index-wise ascending, -- the monad instance for Stream computes its supremum. -- Use this e.g. to compute any mathematical quantity -- defined as a supremum.
-- Olaf
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Conal Elliott
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Olaf Klinke
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Petr Pudlák