They both look cool. Do you think I'll be able to find someone to host professional sites using those libraries? [....], Maurício Sebastian Sylvan wrote:

On 1/21/06, Maurício wrote:

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Hi,

Can I use Haskell to do what people do with, say, PHP? More and more I have the need for that, and I've been looking into Ruby on Rails. Do you thing Haskell could be a choice? Of course, I don't need something exactly like PHP (for instance, I don't care if I can't insert code in the middle of xhtml pages. If I have to generate everything from Haskell code, I would probably like it. Also, CGI can be a choice). But I need reasonable efficiency and to be able to find someone to host my site. What solutions do you suggest me?

Take a look at WASH and HSP...

http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~thiemann/WASH/ http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~d00nibro/hsp/

-- Sebastian Sylvan +46(0)736-818655 UIN: 44640862

hsp can be run in two different modes. Running the full-blown version with runtime system will probably be hard on a professional site, you would have to convince them to install hsp. But if you can do without the fancier bits, in particular application-scoped data, you can run hsp pages as ordinary cgi scripts. Look in the HSPR.CGI.RunCGI module. /Niklas On 1/21/06, Maurício wrote:

They both look cool. Do you think I'll be able to find someone to host professional sites using those libraries?

[....], Maurício

Sebastian Sylvan wrote:

...

On 1/21/06, Maurício wrote:

...

Hi,

Can I use Haskell to do what people do with, say, PHP? More and more I have the need for that, and I've been looking into Ruby on Rails. Do you thing Haskell could be a choice? Of course, I don't need something exactly like PHP (for instance, I don't care if I can't insert code in the middle of xhtml pages. If I have to generate everything from Haskell code, I would probably like it. Also, CGI can be a choice). But I need reasonable efficiency and to be able to find someone to host my site. What solutions do you suggest me?

Take a look at WASH and HSP...

http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~thiemann/WASH/ http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~d00nibro/hsp/

-- Sebastian Sylvan +46(0)736-818655 UIN: 44640862

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Now that would be a treat. :-) To get it working properly you would first of all need ghc. The you would need packages hsp with dependencies (haskell-src-exts, harp, trhsx) and hspr with dependencies (hs-plugins). To get the SQL parts you probably want to have haskelldb. I am in the process of making hsp installation easier, there are still a bunch of rough edges here and there. You can contact me if you want to try installing, or if you find someone who would be willing to try. :-) /Niklas On 1/23/06, Maurício wrote:

I think it would be interesting to ask some professional site to install hsp, before I go to the cgi solution. If I want to do that, what should I ask them to install to get a full working environment, with access to SQL and other stuff?

Maurício

Niklas Broberg wrote:

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hsp can be run in two different modes. Running the full-blown version with runtime system will probably be hard on a professional site, you would have to convince them to install hsp. But if you can do without the fancier bits, in particular application-scoped data, you can run hsp pages as ordinary cgi scripts. Look in the HSPR.CGI.RunCGI module.

/Niklas

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Sebastian Sylvan wrote:

Take a look at WASH and HSP...

http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~thiemann/WASH/

http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~d00nibro/hsp/

I can't find this one on haskell.org/libraries/

Interesting. It's hosted on Haskell site. Do you think I would be able to do what you have done in a professional hosting service computer? Best, Maurício Neil Mitchell wrote:

Hi,

...

Can I use Haskell to do what people do with, say, PHP?

I wrote Hoogle (http://haskell.org/hoogle) using Haskell, without using any libraries - just directly as a console program. It's open source so you can download it and see how its done, if you want. Of course the web handling bit is more low level than WASH and HSP.

Thanks

Neil

On 21/01/06, Maurício wrote:

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Hi,

and more

...

I have the need for that, and I've been looking into Ruby on Rails. Do you thing Haskell could be a choice? Of course, I don't need something exactly like PHP (for instance, I don't care if I can't insert code in the middle of xhtml pages. If I have to generate everything from Haskell code, I would probably like it. Also, CGI can be a choice). But I need reasonable efficiency and to be able to find someone to host my site. What solutions do you suggest me?

Thanks, Maurício

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Neil Mitchell wrote:

Hi,

...

Can I use Haskell to do what people do with, say, PHP?

I wrote Hoogle (http://haskell.org/hoogle) using Haskell, without using any libraries - just directly as a console program. It's open source so you can download it and see how its done, if you want. Of course the web handling bit is more low level than WASH and HSP.

Warning: Shameless plugs follow If you want to be somewhere in between the high-level WASH/HSP and the low-level implement-it-all-yourself approach, you may want to have a look at the following libraries. The cgi package allows you to write CGI programs without caring about low-level communication with the webserver and stuff like how form data is encoded: http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~bringert/darcs/haskell-cgi/ There is also a FastCGI wrapper you can use to get better performance from your CGI programs (written using the above library): http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~bringert/darcs/haskell-fastcgi/ With the xhtml package you can create XHTML documents using simple Haskell functions: http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~bringert/darcs/haskell-xhtml/ It is a very simple adaptation of Andy Gill's Text.Html module. The URLs above all point to darcs repos for the libraries. /Björn

On 21/01/06, Maurício wrote:

...

Hi,

and more

...

I have the need for that, and I've been looking into Ruby on Rails. Do you thing Haskell could be a choice? Of course, I don't need something exactly like PHP (for instance, I don't care if I can't insert code in the middle of xhtml pages. If I have to generate everything from Haskell code, I would probably like it. Also, CGI can be a choice). But I need reasonable efficiency and to be able to find someone to host my site. What solutions do you suggest me?

Thanks, Maurício

On 1/23/06, Jared Updike wrote:

For haskell-fastcgi, my configure fails with

cannot satisfy dependency cgi-any

Google does not turn up any useful results for this. Which package will fix this dependency? I thought I just installed fastcgi from source but I'm not sure where it gets looked for by haskell-fastcgi...

From the README: Requirements for building:

- The cgi package from: http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~bringert/darcs/haskell-cgi/ -- Friendly, Lemmih