I would like to have a go at it. Could you maybe upload the vector version somewhere? Thanks, Thomas On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 13:22, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:

The idea is pretty cool, but at first sight the batteries look like a graphical glitch. Probably some antialiasing or smoothening is needed..

2009/6/11 Deniz Dogan :

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2009/6/11 Thomas Davie :

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We had a lot of "fun" deciding Haskell's new logo, and while I don't agree with the final result, it would be nice if we could now start consistently using it.  With that in mind, I realised that the Haskell Platform's logo is totally different, and did a quick mock up of a version reflecting the current Haskell logo.  It needs someone with the original vector graphics to have a play and improve it a little bit, but hopefully you'll se a concept you like.

Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme: http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

I'd appreciate comments, suggestions, and possibly either access to the vector version of our current logo, or someone producing a nice version of this.

Bob

I love this suggestion! Maybe we should make the batteries look more battery-ish though. I think that especially the minus sign is a bit unclear, so maybe we could make the signs heavier?

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On 12 Jun 2009, at 10:27, Loup Vaillant wrote:

2009/6/11 Thomas Davie :

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Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme: http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

I'd sugest a thinner and smaller lambda, or bigger (maybe longer) batteries. The + tip of the batteries should also be colored in gold.

Hmm, I'm not sure I agree -- I think the main strength of the original logo is that it's simple, both in terms of all lines being the same width, and in terms of having only two colours used. It means it can be adapted to all sorts of different colour sets (as it is on Haskell.org). Perhaps the correct thing to do here is to make a black/gold version for the haskell platform? I do agree with the earlier comment that the font for the +/- needs to be more bold, if I'd had a vector version, I would have done that. Bob

2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst :

There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like batteries is that they don't look "round". For that we need some careful "gradenting" of them, to make the bottoms of them look shadowed. -- Deniz Dogan

2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan :

2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan :

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2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst :

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There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like batteries is that they don't look "round". For that we need some careful "gradenting" of them, to make the bottoms of them look shadowed.

-- Deniz Dogan

Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.

-- Deniz Dogan

I realise now that I forgot the little "head" on the plus side of the battery, so you'll just have to imagine it's there. ;) -- Deniz Dogan

2009/6/12 Thomas Davie :

On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:15, Deniz Dogan wrote:

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2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan :

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2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst :

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There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like batteries is that they don't look "round". For that we need some careful "gradenting" of them, to make the bottoms of them look shadowed.

-- Deniz Dogan

Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.

With various people's ideas taken into account, I've created a new version of my attempt:

http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.png http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.svg

I think the yellow/black is easily enough to highlight it as a battery, and saves adding gradients etc, that can become awkward if the logo is ever used in printing.

Bob

While I agree with you on the printing issue, I believe that we can use separate logos for web use (perhaps with gradients, depending on what others think) and another logo for printing. After all, one can argue that any colours apart from greyscale ones are non-optimal for printing as well, but that will not stop anyone from making a colourful logo. -- Deniz Dogan

Nice work, I love this one. :-) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Thomas Davie wrote:

On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:15, Deniz Dogan wrote:

2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan :

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2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst :

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There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like batteries is that they don't look "round". For that we need some careful "gradenting" of them, to make the bottoms of them look shadowed.

-- Deniz Dogan

Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.

With various people's ideas taken into account, I've created a new version of my attempt:

http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.png http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.svg

I think the yellow/black is easily enough to highlight it as a battery, and saves adding gradients etc, that can become awkward if the logo is ever used in printing.

Bob

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Luke Palmer writes:

Nice work, I love this one. :-)

Yes, very nice. I do find the lambda and > too fat, but I presume that's the way the Haskell logo looks. Also, I think the right edges of the thick part of the batteries should be aligned, so that the little "knob" on the + extends further than the flat end of the -. -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

Hey all, On 15 jun 2009, at 08:39, Ashley Yakeley wrote:

Thomas Davie wrote:

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We had a lot of "fun" deciding Haskell's new logo, and while I don't agree with the final result, it would be nice if we could now start consistently using it. With that in mind, I realised that the Haskell Platform's logo is totally different, and did a quick mock up of a version reflecting the current Haskell logo. It needs someone with the original vector graphics to have a play and improve it a little bit, but hopefully you'll se a concept you like.

I rather like the fact that the Haskell Platform logo is distinct from the Haskell logo. I think it helps prevent confusion (even though the Platform logo is based on one of the Haskell logo competition entrants).

For new users, when they "install Haskell" they will install the Haskell Platform. I don't think we need to have a big distinction between that. Therefore, I think that the Haskell Platform should share the Haskell logo. I think the Haskell platform is an excellent name for internal communication, but to the outside world, it *is* Haskell. This is what you get when you install Haskell. Otherwise it will probably only confuse users. I think a typical new user would do something along the following lines: I want to play around with Haskell. I'll google for "install Haskell" or "download Haskell" (here, the Haskell Platform download page should be the #1 hit). There, the user sees the Haskell logo and doesn't have to know *anything* about the platform effort, cabal, ghc or whatever. Therefore, I think it should have the Haskell logo, not the platform logo. -chris