What Don said. 2010/3/29 Don Stewart :

gue.schmidt:

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Hi all,

I notice that posts from the Haskell elders are pretty rare now. Only every now and then we hear from them.

How come?

Because there is too much noise on this list, Günther

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Something I've noticed is the phenomenon of Help Vampires [1] on this list. Amy Hoy: "As soon as an open source project, language, or what- have-you achieves a certain notoriety—its half-life, if you will— they swarm in, seemingly draining the very life out of the community itself." She proceeds to give some tips on handling vampires. Let me excerpt from #2 Cease Enabling Behavior: * Enforce autonomy. No matter how beneficent you’re feeling, never directly answer a common question. * Foster thinking. Even if it’s not a question you see go bye fifty times a day… don’t answer it with a direct fix (unless the person is a known non-vamp, or it’s a real puzzler). * Reward self-help and helping others. Thank people who ask intelligent questions and do research first, and people who make an effort to help others. Tell them they’re a credit to the community. [1] http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/ The post was apparently written as a follow-up to [2] that meditated on why the Ruby on Rails community wasn't as good as it used to be. [2] http://slash7.com/2006/03/22/s-o-s-save-our-sanity/ Lennart Augustsson wrote:

What Don said.

2010/3/29 Don Stewart :

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gue.schmidt:

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Hi all,

I notice that posts from the Haskell elders are pretty rare now. Only every now and then we hear from them.

How come?

Because there is too much noise on this list, Günther

-- Don

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2010/3/30 Don Stewart :

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I notice that posts from the Haskell elders are pretty rare now. Only every now and then we hear from them.

How come?

Because there is too much noise on this list, Günther

And they have better things to do than answer stupid questions and get involved in petty discussions. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic Ivan.Miljenovic@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com

Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

2010/3/30 Don Stewart :

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I notice that posts from the Haskell elders are pretty rare now. Only every now and then we hear from them.

How come? Because there is too much noise on this list, Günther

And they have better things to do than answer stupid questions and get involved in petty discussions.

Or perhaps people with an overly-condescending attitude are making this list a less friendly place? Personally, I used to highly commend haskell-cafe for being such a friendly place. After catching up on it after a bit of a vacation, I'm not so sure about that anymore. Perhaps that is a price of failing to avoid success, but I wish it weren't. Couldn't you have said that in a bit of a more polite way? Perhaps without spewing it to thousands of readers while you're at it? -- John

Günther Schmidt wrote:

Is there a listing of sorts for all Haskell-relevant blogs?

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