
Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works? Thanks! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/

Hey, JP! Coincidentally I've recently used acid-state as well. It seems well-maintained and works on GHC 7.10. I can't say much about ixset, though. It looks like the Happstack project is supporting GHC 7.10, perhaps someone forgot about ixset? You could file an issue [2]. [1] https://github.com/Happstack/happstack-server/issues/12 [2] https://github.com/Happstack/ixset Cheers, -- Felipe.

JP Moresmau
Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works?
Indeed it seems like syb-with-class is a bit stagnant. For what it's worth I've moved the source to a Git repository [1] along with fixes allowing it to compile on GHC 7.10 (although with a slight loss of sharing which may or may not be recovered by the optimizer). sanzhiyan or Simon, do you think you could have a look at these changes and push them to Hackage if you find them acceptable? I would also be happy to take over maintenance if that is preferred. Cheers, - Ben [1] https://github.com/bgamari/syb-with-class

Hi, On 28/05/15 19:05, JP Moresmau wrote:
Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works?
Another alternative to ixset is ixset-typed [1], by my colleague Andres. It has an API rather like ixset, but with much stronger type-level guarantees, and it is fairly easy to port code from one to the other. Moreover, it doesn't depend on syb-with-class. Hope this helps, Adam [1] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ixset-typed https://github.com/well-typed/ixset-typed -- Adam Gundry, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com/

Thank you all!! It looks I need to look into ixset-typed but that there is
hope to get ixset and its dependencies in good order!
JP
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Adam Gundry
Hi,
On 28/05/15 19:05, JP Moresmau wrote:
Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works?
Another alternative to ixset is ixset-typed [1], by my colleague Andres. It has an API rather like ixset, but with much stronger type-level guarantees, and it is fairly easy to port code from one to the other. Moreover, it doesn't depend on syb-with-class.
Hope this helps,
Adam
[1] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ixset-typed https://github.com/well-typed/ixset-typed
-- Adam Gundry, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com/
-- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/

Hello,
acid-state is still alive and kicking (and better be since hackage uses
it). In fact, there is a GSoC project to add replication support this
summer I believe.
ixset is still supported. We submitted a patch upstream to syb-with-class
but have not heard back. Our patched version is here:
https://github.com/seereason/syb-with-class
Nix patches syb-with-class by default -- which is nice ;)
If you do not have legacy code to support, I highly recommend checking out
ixset-typed. It is very much like ixset -- but does a better job catching
errors though the type system. IxSet is a little too loose with the types
for no real reason resulting in avoidable runtime errors.
- jeremy
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM, JP Moresmau
Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works?
Thanks!
-- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/
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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Jeremy Shaw
Hello,
acid-state is still alive and kicking (and better be since hackage uses it). In fact, there is a GSoC project to add replication support this summer I believe.
ixset is still supported. We submitted a patch upstream to syb-with-class but have not heard back. Our patched version is here:
Where is this upstream? Since I haven't seen any patches my way until today I guess there's some other place where I'm not checking. Anyhow there's a new version on hackage now which builds on ghc-7.10. I would gladly transfer maintainership of syb-with-class though. Cheers, Andrea
https://github.com/seereason/syb-with-class
Nix patches syb-with-class by default -- which is nice ;)
If you do not have legacy code to support, I highly recommend checking out ixset-typed. It is very much like ixset -- but does a better job catching errors though the type system. IxSet is a little too loose with the types for no real reason resulting in avoidable runtime errors.
- jeremy
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM, JP Moresmau
wrote: Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works?
Thanks!
-- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/
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Oh, sorry, your mail was from today as well, so github was the
upstream, it's been a while since I've been on -cafe and thought this
was an older thread.
All the best,
Andrea
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Andrea Vezzosi
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Jeremy Shaw
wrote: Hello,
acid-state is still alive and kicking (and better be since hackage uses it). In fact, there is a GSoC project to add replication support this summer I believe.
ixset is still supported. We submitted a patch upstream to syb-with-class but have not heard back. Our patched version is here:
Where is this upstream? Since I haven't seen any patches my way until today I guess there's some other place where I'm not checking.
Anyhow there's a new version on hackage now which builds on ghc-7.10.
I would gladly transfer maintainership of syb-with-class though.
Cheers, Andrea
https://github.com/seereason/syb-with-class
Nix patches syb-with-class by default -- which is nice ;)
If you do not have legacy code to support, I highly recommend checking out ixset-typed. It is very much like ixset -- but does a better job catching errors though the type system. IxSet is a little too loose with the types for no real reason resulting in avoidable runtime errors.
- jeremy
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM, JP Moresmau
wrote: Hello, for a project I decided to use Acid-State and IxSet, and was pretty happy with them. I enjoyed working with Haskell structures for storing and querying data, and my data could fit in memory. However, now I've moved to GHC 7.10, and for example syb-with-class, a dependency of ixset, does not build with template-haskell 2.10. So I'm wondering, are these projects still alive and kicking? Are if I want some memory based storage and indexing, should I look at some other projects (maybe VCache http://hackage.haskell.org/package/vcache). Or is it just bad timing and GHC 7.10 compatible versions of these libraries are in the works?
Thanks!
-- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/
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Adam Gundry
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