XMonad and NetworkManager?

Hi, A bit off-topic, but this is the café, after all... Like many here, I run XMonad as my window manager on top of Linux. On - at least my brand of - Linux, networking is generally handled by NetworkManager, which really needs its associated applet (nm-applet) to work properly. While I discovered trayer, which at least let me run nm-applet without dragging in most of Gnome, it still drags in some of the bloat, and interacts a bit poorly with the rest of the system (temporarily locks up the screen, transparency doesn't work, positions itself awkwardly, needs gconfd at incovinient times..) So: has anybody tried better alternatives to NetworkManager and nm-applet? Wicd, say? Or something that can integrate with dzen? -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Ketil Malde
Hi,
A bit off-topic, but this is the café, after all...
Like many here, I run XMonad as my window manager on top of Linux. On - at least my brand of - Linux, networking is generally handled by NetworkManager, which really needs its associated applet (nm-applet) to work properly. While I discovered trayer, which at least let me run nm-applet without dragging in most of Gnome, it still drags in some of the bloat, and interacts a bit poorly with the rest of the system (temporarily locks up the screen, transparency doesn't work, positions itself awkwardly, needs gconfd at incovinient times..)
So: has anybody tried better alternatives to NetworkManager and nm-applet? Wicd, say? Or something that can integrate with dzen?
I use wicd to manage wireless connections for about three month and I'm pretty happy with it. It seems to be much saner than network manager. Didn't any serious problems with it.
From version 1.6 they introduced curses interface, so you don't need applet or even X.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:47PM +0400, Alexey Khudyakov wrote:
I use wicd to manage wireless connections for about three month and I'm pretty happy with it. It seems to be much saner than network manager. Didn't any serious problems with it.
I second that. I've gone away from NM because I always had to wait for several minutes before being able to connect anywhere after an suspend/hibernate cycle, and also because there wasn't a way of forcing it to discover the available wireless networks again. Having said all that, I'm happier than ever with wicd. It starts pretty early on the boot so when the login screen is presented I'm already connected to my wireless network! It's also very fast to reconnect after an hibernate cycle, taking almost the same time as I need to type my password. I use Xmonad with gnome-panel so I can't really tell you how good is the ncurses interface, but it exists. Moreover, I only touch the wicd interface if I need to connect to a new wireless network, it almost always does the right thing and it doesn't need a client to work. IOW, you may start wicd-client only when you need to configure something, and then close it rightaway. My 2 cents, -- Felipe.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Felipe Lessa
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:47PM +0400, Alexey Khudyakov wrote:
I use wicd to manage wireless connections for about three month and I'm pretty happy with it. It seems to be much saner than network manager. Didn't any serious problems with it.
I second that. I've gone away from NM because I always had to wait for several minutes before being able to connect anywhere after an suspend/hibernate cycle, and also because there wasn't a way of forcing it to discover the available wireless networks again.
I triple that. I've gone away from NM because it wasn't configurable enough for me. I'm happy with wicd for the last half year or so. I haven't noticed the ncurses interface but I'm definitely going to take a quick peek at it soon. -- Zsolt
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Alexey Khudyakov
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Felipe Lessa
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Ketil Malde
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Zsolt Dollenstein