Re: [Haskell-community] 2018 state of Haskell survey

I browse r/haskell all the time *and* follow FPco on Twitter, and I wasn't aware of this survey. [1] It should not be surprising to think that fp complete has much better outreach to Stackage users than to non Stackage users. [2] Any survey hosted by FPComplete is biased towards users of stack, for reasons that should be self evident. [3] Similar sentiments have been expressed about last year's Haskell Weekly survey: Haskell Weekly's reputation is tainted as it appears to be seen as partisan (and I tend to agree). [4] one of those surveys is from FP Complete and one of them is from someone who I would consider very partisan in these kind of discussions. [5] For the love of god stop posting those surveys. They're not convincing and obviously flawed. [6] I don't expect to be able to make everyone happy, but I think that

I'm not entirely sure what official support would look like. A few things come to mind: 1. Simply putting "official" somewhere in the title, such as: Official 2018 state of Haskell survey. 2. Putting something about Haskell.org in the description of the survey, such as: Sponsored by Haskell.org. 3. Announcing the survey through channels that I may not be aware of. Or helping me announce the survey through various channels (mailing lists, Reddit, and so on) by mentioning Haskell.org. I'm sure there are more ways that I'm not thinking of. Perhaps it would be better to state my goal and see what, if anything, can be to achieve that goal? My goal is for this survey to be *the* authoritative Haskell survey and for the community to broadly accept it results. In particular I would like to avoid reactions like these to the recent FP Complete survey: presenting this year's survey as sponsored by both Haskell Weekly and Haskell.org would go a long way toward making it acceptable to a broad range of the Haskell community. I hope that helps! [1]: https://np.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/9mm05d/2018_haskell_survey_results/e7gplya/[2]: https://np.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/8tc8pr/fp_complete_launches_new_blockchain_auditing/e188ftv/?context=3[3]: https://np.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/9mm05d/2018_haskell_survey_results/e7gpfwe/[4]: https://np.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/9mm05d/2018_haskell_survey_results/e7ka8xn/[5]: https://np.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/8tc8pr/fp_complete_launches_new_blockchain_auditing/e187pzq/?context=1[6]: https://np.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/8uw9hw/psa_cabal_breaks_with_yaml08... On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Neil Mitchell wrote:

Hi Taylor,

What does official support look like? I don't think there's anything above and beyond what you're already doing.> Thanks, Neil

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 3:49 pm, Taylor Fausak wrote:>> (I have CCed because the haskell-community

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mailing list seems relatively quiet and I want to make sure this is seen.)>> Hello! My name is Taylor Fausak. I run the Haskell Weekly newsletter. Last year I published a survey [1] for the Haskell community. I collected and reported [2] on about 1,335 responses. I plan on publishing another survey this year on the same date, November 1st. I am developing it in the open again [3] and would love to hear from any interested parties. Please let me know if you have any ideas about the survey!>> This year I am interested in making the survey official by seeking support from Haskell.org. Is such a thing possible and desirable?>> Thanks for your consideration! I hope to hear from you soon.

[1]: https://haskellweekly.news/surveys/2017.html [2]: https://taylor.fausak.me/2017/11/15/2017-state-of-haskell-survey-results/>> [3]: https://github.com/haskellweekly/haskellweekly.github.io/issues/206>> _______________________________________________ Haskell-community mailing list Haskell-community@haskell.org http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community