Hi Chris. On the conception of the list, see here for motivation: https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-community/2015-September/000001.h... Let me just quote my response to your email as it was sent to the committee email alias: "Chris: I’m sorry to hear you don’t like the use of the design. I promise we’ll discuss it seriously. It was a drastic improvement over the wiki and we were all thrilled to see it deployed. You were considered very seriously for the committee, but the open slots went to others who were also qualified, which happens. I do have to note that outside of the morass of the downloads page discussion, it doesn’t appear that there have been any obstacles to making any other parts of the site improved, so I don’t know why you feel the thing as a whole lacks coherent vision? I understand that under the license there’s no problem with us using the site. I also understand if you don’t want us to, and so in my opinion, ideally we’ll find some way to keep the newfound streamlinedness of the site (which is thanks to you! thanks again for your work!) without stepping on your toes by using a design you’d rather we didn’t. This is just an off the cuff response from one person of course — we’ll need a proper discussion." I'd add that membership status on the committee doesn't (and shouldn't) correlate with the ability to make core contributions. The current haskell design is one such great example of this. Others include of course all the work done on hackage, cabal, stack, hoogle and many other important resources used widely (including just the core servers and infra themselves). So I'm doubly sorry you feel that your lack of membership on the haskell.org committee has precluded your ability to make contributions. Let me take this occasion to note, more generally, that I'll certainly ask around for volunteers to help with a new design for the haskell.org homepage, and I'd welcome anyone on this list stepping forward to get involved :-) Cheers, Gershom On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Christopher Done wrote:

[Re-sending to the curiously conceived haskell-community list.]

Hello,

It's been two years (2014) since I published my design (http://chrisdone.com/posts/haskell-lang), which came about because I wasn't happy with what was on haskell.org and how it was maintained. After that I was approached about using my design for haskell.org, I wasn't thrilled about handing over my work to be committee'd to death, and was initially shocked into nearly giving up on the whole business, but was turned around for the good of the Haskell community in general. In the end my fast horse, having waded through months of officialism, became a camel. It took one year. One year for the actual site to be deployed (2015) and now in 2016 it's still lacking clear coherent vision. I applied to be a committee member which wasn't considered worthy of reply. And since 2014 I've lost any energy in dealing with "the committee".

So I'm going on record that I don't approve of the current haskell.org, nor your use of my design, and would like haskell.org to be reset to what you had before; the wiki. I don't expect much to happen (as usual), but that's kind of the point.

Going our separate ways,

Ciao!

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