ANN: Creation of Haskell-Community list for Haskell.org Community Infrastructure Discussions

Dear all, The haskell.org committee [1] had a productive week during ICFP, and at some point we'll try to write up some of the small things underway and future plans -- many things are quite tentative at the moment. However, one thing that became clear to us (well, thanks to the useful prodding of SPJ) is that we have historically participated in discussions in other venues (-cafe, reddit, etc) and then had our own internal discussions (few, seldom, and largely organizational to be honest) on the low-traffic committee [at] haskell.org mail alias. But this leaves open people wondering what those discussions are. And it also leaves open where the *designated place* to discuss haskell.org community infrastructure is. The haskell-infrastructure [2] list is very quiet and really about technical considerations. Meanwhile, -cafe, reddit and soforth are about anything and everything. So we created another list, which will be a place where we seek to have our discussions related to plans for haskell.org committee work, and where we invite everyone to join us. This new list is the haskell-community list: https://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community The committee alias will still work, and is still the way to just write directly to the members of the committee -- no list to join. But if you wish to have a discussion about how we have things set up on haskell community infrastructure, services provided, and that we might wish to add, and how you can help (or even just what your thoughts are on how things might be done), now there is a good place for that. Hope to continue conversations with many of you there, Gershom (for the haskell.org committee) [1] https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell.org_committee [2] http://community.galois.com/mailman/listinfo/haskell-infrastructure

| But this leaves open people wondering what those discussions are. And | it also leaves open where the *designated place* to discuss | haskell.org community infrastructure is. The haskell-infrastructure | [2] list is very quiet and really about technical considerations. | Meanwhile, -cafe, reddit and so forth are about anything and | everything. So we created another list, which will be a place where we | seek to have our discussions related to plans for haskell.org | committee work, and where we invite everyone to join us. I think this is terrific, thanks Gershom. Just to be clear, as I understand it, the intent is to broaden participation in the work of the haskell.org committee (which is our only single point of confluence covering the entire Haskell community) by making its discussions by-default open to everyone to join in. Specifically: * Anyone can write to the haskell-community list. * Haskell.org committee members commit to reading the haskell-community list and writing to it. That is, it's not a side-show. The way to bring something to the attention of the committee (and the wider community) is to write to the list. * Discussion among haskell.org committee members takes place, by default, on the new, public, haskell-community mailing list. (There is still a private list for members, but it is used only when there is a particular reason for not conducting a conversation in public; for example when debating nominations for new members of the committee.) Perhaps it'd be worth adding a sub-section on https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell.org_committee just to make these points? Simon | -----Original Message----- | From: Haskell-Cafe [mailto:haskell-cafe-bounces@haskell.org] On Behalf | Of Gershom B | Sent: 08 September 2015 22:59 | To: haskell-cafe; haskell@haskell.org; haskell- | infrastructure@community.galois.com; haskell-community@haskell.org | Subject: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: Creation of Haskell-Community list for | Haskell.org Community Infrastructure Discussions | | Dear all, | | The haskell.org committee [1] had a productive week during ICFP, and | at some point we'll try to write up some of the small things underway | and future plans -- many things are quite tentative at the moment. | | However, one thing that became clear to us (well, thanks to the useful | prodding of SPJ) is that we have historically participated in | discussions in other venues (-cafe, reddit, etc) and then had our own | internal discussions (few, seldom, and largely organizational to be | honest) on the low-traffic committee [at] haskell.org mail alias. | | But this leaves open people wondering what those discussions are. And | it also leaves open where the *designated place* to discuss | haskell.org community infrastructure is. The haskell-infrastructure | [2] list is very quiet and really about technical considerations. | Meanwhile, -cafe, reddit and soforth are about anything and | everything. So we created another list, which will be a place where we | seek to have our discussions related to plans for haskell.org | committee work, and where we invite everyone to join us. | | This new list is the haskell-community list: | https://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-community | | The committee alias will still work, and is still the way to just | write directly to the members of the committee -- no list to join. But | if you wish to have a discussion about how we have things set up on | haskell community infrastructure, services provided, and that we might | wish to add, and how you can help (or even just what your thoughts are | on how things might be done), now there is a good place for that. | | Hope to continue conversations with many of you there, Gershom (for | the haskell.org committee) | | [1] https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell.org_committee | [2] http://community.galois.com/mailman/listinfo/haskell- | infrastructure | _______________________________________________ | Haskell-Cafe mailing list | Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org | http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Simon Peyton Jones
* Anyone can write to the haskell-community list.
* Haskell.org committee members commit to reading the haskell-community list and writing to it. That is, it's not a side-show. The way to bring something to the attention of the committee (and the wider community) is to write to the list.
* Discussion among haskell.org committee members takes place, by default, on the new, public, haskell-community mailing list. (There is still a private list for members, but it is used only when there is a particular reason for not conducting a conversation in public; for example when debating nominations for new members of the committee.)
Perhaps it'd be worth adding a sub-section on https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell.org_committee just to make these points?
All correct bullet points, and the wiki has been updated to talk about the list more specifically. --gershom
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