Good summary Herbert. It'd be great to have it as a page on haskell.org, rather than just in soon-lost email. Simon | -----Original Message----- | From: Haskell-prime [mailto:haskell-prime-bounces@haskell.org] On Behalf | Of Herbert Valerio Riedel | Sent: 08 September 2017 09:43 | To: Anthony Clayden | Cc: haskell-prime@haskell.org | Subject: Re: Remove eq and show from num class | | On 2017-09-08 at 09:19:54 +0200, Anthony Clayden wrote: | | [...] | | > If this is to the committee, shouldn't it be on the committee list? | > (I mean ghc-steering-committee.) | | > Or is there some other committee? I thought the Haskell-prime forum | > and process was dead/replaced by the github proposals process? | | I can see how the proliferation of committees & github repos may seem | confusing to casual observers, so let me provide a quick overview which | hopefully doesn't worsen the confusion... :-) | | ## Haskell Core Library Committee | | - | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.has | kell.org%2FCore_Libraries_Committee&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.co | m%7Ca13a8633ae3c436a9deb08d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7 | C1%7C0%7C636404570444220789&sdata=wQ%2B6bfpKtDPUmnxa54FWVDiq%2F3H7eVfnkGF | kW4s82Ns%3D&reserved=0 | | Basically, the core library committee oversees decisions of what happens | with core libraries such as `base` which includes the API defined by the | Haskell library report. However, the Eq/Show=>Num superclass removal | proposal (<https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2011- | September/016712.html>), | however predates the core libraries committee's existence (the CLC was | originally formed sometime around 2013 to design and manage big changes | such as the implementation of the Functor/Applicative/Monad proposal -- | for which there was big community support but lack of leadership was | preventing its implementation). | | Moreover, the CLC together with the Hackage Trustees also maintains the | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c | om%2Fhaskell%2Fpvp&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Ca13a8633ae3c4 | 36a9deb08d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C63640457 | 0444220789&sdata=uI0uVdaGjBLmNrlUqdrPeO7g6%2B4isWj8w1Qi3CDHIIU%3D&reserve | d=0 specification which is integral to the way Hackage and the Cabal | solver interact. | | ## Haskell Language Committee (aka Haskell Prime Committee) | | - https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-prime/2016- | April/004050.html | | So this committee's incarnation has just been formed last year; it's a | bit too early to declare it dead. | | ## GHC Steering Committee | | - https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/SteeringCommittee | | This is mostly about user-facing changes to GHC and was created shortly | after the prime committee's formation was announced. It surely wasn't | intended to replace the prime committee, but was rather formed as a | reaction to complaints about GHC's governance, you can read up about its | intent at | | - https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/blog/rethinking-proposals | | Not all changes are even relevant to the Haskell Report (like e.g. | warning flags); but Report-relevant changes may start their life-cycle as | GHC extensions to get some empirical field-testing, and if desirable to | later be promoted to Haskell Prime proposals subject to the Prime | process. | | ## Other Committees | | For completeness, here's a few other Haskell-related committees and/or | working-group like processes OTTOMH: | | ### Haskell.org committee | | - | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.has | kell.org%2FHaskell.org_committee&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7 | Ca13a8633ae3c436a9deb08d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1% | 7C0%7C636404570444220789&sdata=7yZv2psUaTehR%2FsiCtNY0n1AXzrGcHXrUKoDxeeV | HyY%3D&reserved=0 | | ### The Haskell.org Website Working Group (HWWG) | | - | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c | om%2Fndmitchell%2Fhwwg&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Ca13a8633a | e3c436a9deb08d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C6364 | 04570444220789&sdata=cKoBAcJdILupv2mlkwvHuSCx1lwdwIimCi3%2BTujuSHo%3D&res | erved=0 | | ### Haskell Ecosystem Proposals | | - | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c | om%2Fhaskell%2Fecosystem- | proposals&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Ca13a8633ae3c436a9deb08 | d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C63640457044422078 | 9&sdata=XW3ojdp3kjN8wB%2FhOzeWSi6T2UKYaH2M9u8YaSWzeGQ%3D&reserved=0 | | ### Industrial Haskell Group | | - | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Findustry. | haskell.org&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Ca13a8633ae3c436a9deb | 08d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636404570444220 | 789&sdata=tmFLIQlxl%2Bs9HFSS2d6qLV3MKGjjToLDnskN99yGYKg%3D&reserved=0 | | ### Commercial Haskell Group | | - | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c | om%2Fcommercialhaskell%2Fcommercialhaskell&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40micro | soft.com%7Ca13a8633ae3c436a9deb08d4f695bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd01 | 1db47%7C1%7C0%7C636404570444220789&sdata=%2F44igZz%2BRNReXD9vYllze0alzxI0 | r1BXOGkWvGZoxjM%3D&reserved=0 | | | HTH, | HVR | _______________________________________________ | Haskell-prime mailing list | Haskell-prime@haskell.org | https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.hask | ell.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhaskell- | prime&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Ca13a8633ae3c436a9deb08d4f6 | 95bee5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636404570444220789&sd | ata=O629fxiUjQGNCt8l%2BhZ5YaaF7gYC09ilo4J1fEmi%2BKo%3D&reserved=0

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"CS" == Carter Schonwald writes:

CS> I mostly wanted to confirm that we in fact will actually say yes before CS> doing the formal writtingup :) Ah, I actually misread the English sentence! I though it said "all yays from committee members", and that it was then asking people to simply affirm the vote. I should have read, "everyone who agrees, say yay". :) -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2