Good to know! It's important to keep morale up and do what we can. I imagine that'll be small details in my case, but there's meaningful modernisation to be done even if major type system features are still too difficult to standardise just yet. On 03/12/2018 21:23, Carter Schonwald wrote:

i'm slowly prepping some stuff for ghc and the committee, though i can't say about the general action. I do think some stuff i've got planned should make its way in, i cant speak for other folks etc etc

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:54 AM Anthony Clayden mailto:anthony_clayden@clear.net.nz> wrote:

On /Thu Nov 29 15:00:19 UTC 2018, Doug McIlroy wrote:/

> >/Frankly after you've filtered out all that, I'd be astonished if you//have anything left. It seems to be usual practice on Hackage to switch//on a swag of LANGUAGE pragmas even if this module isn't using them./

>>/(MPTCs, FlexibleInstances/Contexts in particular.)/ > A depressing remark, which comes close to saying > there is no true Haskell. ? There wasn't a true Haskell in 1998. Already Hugs (in HugsMode) and GHC (with glasgow-extns) had MPTCs, FlexibleInstances/Contexts, FunDeps, UndecidableInstances. Overlapping instances was optional extra. > It's one reasonI hang mostly with Hugs. Interesting. Does that mean Hugs98? How on earth do you manage without at least some of the above? > GHC pretty well repudiates Haskell 2010. So does Hugs (in HugsMode): a large proportion of the extra features in H2010 were suggested by the Hugs teams; and Hugs 2006 was already far advanced beyond it. > May Haskell 2020 receive more respect! I think you'll need to adjust your expectations: I doubt H2020 will happen. There was a glimmer of activity last month, but this list has resumed its moribund state. So I think we can put last month down to dead cat bounce. If H2020 does happen, HugsMode will still be well ahead of whatever gets added. AntC

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