Re: [Haskell] GHC/ Fortress -Parallel Computing
Hallo Jan-Willem, Hallo all, Thanks for the clarification first. And coming to your statement
We've certainly looked to the FP community for inspiration in many aspects of the language > is there anything planned to advice programmers what use Haskell, to code in Fortress. The document what I have in mind in this direction is a Introduction in Lisp for Python programmer. http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html
Any feedback welcome Regards Gottfried www.wirtschaftswunder.co.uk www.5152.eu
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jan-Willem Maessen <Janwillem.Maessen@sun.com> Gesendet: 20.02.07 15:58:14 An: "Gottfried F. Zojer" <goenzoy@web.de> CC: haskell@haskell.org Betreff: Re: [Haskell] GHC/ Fortress -Parallel Computing
On Feb 19, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Gottfried F. Zojer wrote:
Hallo to all,
Just curious after reading a posting on the internet. Is somebody using Fortress in combination with Haskell ( GHC) in a parallel setup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortress_programming_language
Not to my knowledge. The Fortress implementation is still at the prototype stage; the prototype runs on the JVM, and JVM/Haskell interoperability is known to be a bit tricky. In general there are substantial challenges to integrating two languages with independent garbage-collected run time systems. Add in independent notions of transactional memory, rather different thread scheduling models, and so forth and the problem becomes trickier still.
That said, there is certainly at least one Haskell programmer writing Fortress code (I wrote much of the library and some of the code examples in the language implementation). We've certainly looked to the FP community for inspiration in many aspects of the language. My favorite example: Fortress generators are essentially build forms for algebras in the Boom hierarchy, and we're effectively doing library- driven foldr/build elimination (except in this algebra it's map- reduce/build instead).
-Jan-Willem Maessen Project Fortress Sun Microsystems
http://research.sun.com/projects/plrg/faq/index.html http://fortress.sunsource.net/
Thanks for any feedback
Regards
Gottfried
www.wirtschaftswunder.co.uk
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On Feb 22, 2007, at 3:06 PM, goenzoy@web.de wrote:
Hallo Jan-Willem, Hallo all,
Thanks for the clarification first. And coming to your statement
We've certainly looked to the FP community for inspiration in many aspects of the language > is there anything planned to advice programmers what use Haskell, to code in Fortress.
You'd be better off asking on one of the Fortress mailing lists (see http://fortress.sunsource.net/; I suggest joining the discuss mailing list and asking there). Sadly, I'm in a little to deep to really do the topic justice myself. I know there are community members there who are working on tutorial documents. -Jan
Hi 2007/2/23, Jan-Willem Maessen <Janwillem.Maessen@sun.com>:
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You'd be better off asking on one of the Fortress mailing lists (see http://fortress.sunsource.net/; I suggest joining the discuss mailing list and asking there). Sadly, I'm in a little to deep to really do the topic justice myself. I know there are community members there who are working on tutorial documents.
Are these mailinglists active? Judging from the archives there is not much happening there. I already thought that joining one of these lists would be good to see what is happening with fortress but when I saw the content of the archives I did not subscribe and forgot about it (until this thread came up). regards Stefan
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