Dear Haskell enthusiasts, Now that the logo issue finally has been settled, it is time to select the proper Haskell mascot. As you are no doubt aware, Microsoft's involvement in Haskell means that we have moved from avoiding success at all cost to actively marketing the language, and any language striving for success is entirely dependent on a cute and distinctive mascot. Where would Perl be today without its camel? Since the recent logo discussion has demonstrated once and for all the futility of attempting a democratic process in the Haskell community - to be quite honest, the elected logo looks like an error message from an IBM mainframe - I have decided to decide on a mascot myself. So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Please ensure that this image accompanies any material published on the web or on paper. Simon
"Simon" == Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com> writes:
Simon> So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the Simon> koala, in the form of the image attached below. Could you please explain the logic that caused you to choose a koala? I have hitherto been unaware of any connection between this creature and the entity concerned. I would have thought a fish be more appropriate (at least across the channel). -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire
Koalas are slow and lazy animals. I think the choice is highly appropriate. -- Lennart On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Colin Paul Adams <colin@colina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
"Simon" == Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com> writes:
Simon> So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the Simon> koala, in the form of the image attached below.
Could you please explain the logic that caused you to choose a koala?
I have hitherto been unaware of any connection between this creature and the entity concerned.
I would have thought a fish be more appropriate (at least across the channel). -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire _______________________________________________ Haskell mailing list Haskell@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell
wikipedia also says "The only people who are permitted to keep Koalas are wildlife carers and, occasionally, research scientists." Simon T. On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Lennart Augustsson wrote:
Koalas are slow and lazy animals. I think the choice is highly appropriate.
-- Lennart
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Colin Paul Adams <colin@colina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> "Simon" == Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com> writes:
Simon> So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the Simon> koala, in the form of the image attached below.
Could you please explain the logic that caused you to choose a koala?
I have hitherto been unaware of any connection between this creature and the entity concerned.
I would have thought a fish be more appropriate (at least across the channel). -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire _______________________________________________ Haskell mailing list Haskell@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell
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"Simon T" == S J Thompson <S.J.Thompson@kent.ac.uk> writes:
Simon T> wikipedia also says Simon T> "The only people who are permitted to keep Koalas are Simon T> wildlife carers and, occasionally, research scientists." Well, I'm neither. And I didn't think the entity concerned was Haskell. I assumed something more up-to-date was the relevant entity. Lennart> Koalas are slow and lazy animals. I think the choice is highly appropriate. Colin> I have hitherto been unaware of any connection between this Colin> creature and the entity concerned. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire
Hello,
So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Is it possible to get a bigger version of this image to appropriately identify the koala? ;-)
Kind regards, Michael -- Dipl.-Inf. Michael C. Lesniak University of Kassel Programming Languages / Methodologies Research Group Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering Wilhelmshöher Allee 73 34121 Kassel Phone: +49-(0)561-804-6269
Surely, I can't be the only person to suspect an April Fool's Day joke lurking behind this choice of mascot! A good one indeed, Simon. Best regards Angelos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Peyton-Jones" <simonpj@microsoft.com> To: <haskell@haskell.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: [Haskell] Marketing Haskell
Dear Haskell enthusiasts,
Now that the logo issue finally has been settled, it is time to select the proper Haskell mascot. As you are no doubt aware, Microsoft's involvement in Haskell means that we have moved from avoiding success at all cost to actively marketing the language, and any language striving for success is entirely dependent on a cute and distinctive mascot. Where would Perl be today without its camel?
Since the recent logo discussion has demonstrated once and for all the futility of attempting a democratic process in the Haskell community - to be quite honest, the elected logo looks like an error message from an IBM mainframe - I have decided to decide on a mascot myself.
So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Please ensure that this image accompanies any material published on the web or on paper.
Simon
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"Angelos Sphyris" <knightofmathematics@hol.gr> writes:
Surely, I can't be the only person to suspect an April Fool's Day joke
Well, since nobody seems to bite anyway, I guess I might as well 'fess up. As we rely on Simon P J and others like him not only to provide us with the theoretical foundations, but also with the implementation of the language we all use and love, I thought perhaps I'd step in and relieve him of some of the load of providing additional entertainment. Thus, in the name of expediency, I took the liberty pasting together a couple of images (alas, of too poor resolution). I added some accompanying text that he otherwise would have had to write himself, and posted it to the mailing list. Or, to put it more bluntly, I forged the message (a fact that can be verified with a casual inspection of the headers). I realize nobody took the message seriously, but lest anybody think Simon actually be responsible for my feeble joke, or, heavens forbid, suggest a mascot based on a picture of himself, I hereby take full responsibility, and promise never ever to do it again for the next 364 days. -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:07 +0200, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote:
Dear Haskell enthusiasts,
Now that the logo issue finally has been settled, it is time to select the proper Haskell mascot. As you are no doubt aware, Microsoft's involvement in Haskell means that we have moved from avoiding success at all cost to actively marketing the language, and any language striving for success is entirely dependent on a cute and distinctive mascot. Where would Perl be today without its camel?
Since the recent logo discussion has demonstrated once and for all the futility of attempting a democratic process in the Haskell community - to be quite honest, the elected logo looks like an error message from an IBM mainframe - I have decided to decide on a mascot myself.
So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Please ensure that this image accompanies any material published on the web or on paper.
The sad thing is, despite the form of this message, I entirely agree with the content... jcc
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:24:54 -0700, Jonathan Cast <jonathanccast@fastmail.fm> wrote:
The sad thing is, despite the form of this message, I entirely agree with the content...
Likewise. Why don't we ask the real Simon to choose an additional mascot for Haskell? Something slow and lazy would do.... -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^
slow and lazy... that's me, too. but haskell is not slow. how about an octopus? there are some kinds (or all?), which are more chameleon like than real chameleons; they can look like strange fishes, stones, or whatever. they have a decentralized brain (like multi core), are really intelligent (can even open cucumber glasses, but probably not 100 bottles of beer) and are from the stronger types of animals; strong because they save their energy (glucose and oxygen) in their blood for times when they need it -- like being lazy but fast. they can swim backwards and can squeeze themself through holes of the size of their own eyes -- reminds me of javascript as backend. and they are funny and cool: they squirt water at you like dolphins -- the "Quotes of the Week" are funny and cool, too, but you have to wet yourself. imho, you can compare them to handy parrots (but mute) with colour/sign language and chameleon features. and they know some ninja arts; inky, but ninjas are cool. some videos: The Indonesian Mimic Octopus <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8oQBYw6xxc> One Very Clever Octopus <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLLQOK1gZE4> Skilled octopus opens bottles <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfRqYjv9QgA> Octopus escaping through a one inch hole <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-azBDt0kik> Wow! Giant octopus - extreme animals - BBC wildlife <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwAqhThd_EQ> Pulpos: suave inteligencia (Octopus intelligence) <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cf7tPoN5o> - marc Am Donnerstag, 2. April 2009 schrieb Bulat Ziganshin:
Hello Benjamin,
Thursday, April 2, 2009, 2:54:38 PM, you wrote:
Likewise. Why don't we ask the real Simon to choose an additional mascot for Haskell? Something slow and lazy would do....
i propose myself...
-- Best regards, Bulat mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin@gmail.com
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marc A. Ziegert <coeus@gmx.de> wrote:
how about an octopus?
I could not resist the opportunity to combine two great ideas and give you the haskell octopus logo in attachment. It's a bit rough, but with a bit more polish, what do you think? Cheers, JP.
Jean-Philippe Bernardy wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marc A. Ziegert <coeus@gmx.de> wrote:
how about an octopus?
I could not resist the opportunity to combine two great ideas and give you the haskell octopus logo in attachment. It's a bit rough, but with a bit more polish, what do you think?
Octopus? I thought it was a narwhal orgy.
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:09:26 +0200, Jean-Philippe Bernardy <jeanphilippe.bernardy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marc A. Ziegert <coeus@gmx.de> wrote:
how about an octopus?
I could not resist the opportunity to combine two great ideas and give you the haskell octopus logo in attachment. It's a bit rough, but with a bit more polish, what do you think?
Nice try, but an octupus has eight arms, not seven. What about the remaining arm? Or is that a logo of two octopi, one with four arms, and the other with three? Oh no, the poor octopi! -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^
On 3 Apr 2009, at 09:25, Benjamin L.Russell wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:09:26 +0200, Jean-Philippe Bernardy <jeanphilippe.bernardy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marc A. Ziegert <coeus@gmx.de> wrote:
how about an octopus?
I could not resist the opportunity to combine two great ideas and give you the haskell octopus logo in attachment. It's a bit rough, but with a bit more polish, what do you think?
Nice try, but an octupus has eight arms, not seven. What about the remaining arm?
Or is that a logo of two octopi, one with four arms, and the other with three? Oh no, the poor octopi!
If it's an octopi, surely it should have 3.1415926... arms? Where's the 0.1415926...? Bob
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:18:17 +0200, Thomas Davie <tatd2@kent.ac.uk> wrote:
On 3 Apr 2009, at 09:25, Benjamin L.Russell wrote:
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Or is that a logo of two octopi, one with four arms, and the other with three? Oh no, the poor octopi!
If it's an octopi, surely it should have 3.1415926... arms? Where's the 0.1415926...?
Actually, according to the Wikipedia entry for "octopus" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus), I probably should have written the plural as either "octopuses" or "octopodes":
The Oxford English Dictionary (2004 update[26]) lists octopuses, octopi and octopodes (in that order); it labels octopodes "rare", and notes that octopi derives from the mistaken assumption that octopus is a second declension Latin noun, which it is not.
Since the 3.1415926... derives from a mistaken assumption, the 0.1415926... disappears in a poof of logic. -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^
G'day all. Quoting "Benjamin L.Russell" <DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com>:
Actually, according to the Wikipedia entry for "octopus" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus), I probably should have written the plural as either "octopuses" or "octopodes":
Ah, but "octopodes" is only the _nominative_ plural. You really should have written this: Or is that a logo of two octoposi, one with four arms, and the other with three? Oh no, the poor octopodes! Or, if the second sentence addresses the octopous, this would be correct: Oh no, the poor octopoi! Hope this helps. For your homework, what is the plural of "topos"? Cheers, Andrew Bromage
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:44:13 -0400, ajb@spamcop.net wrote:
G'day all.
Quoting "Benjamin L.Russell" <DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com>:
Actually, according to the Wikipedia entry for "octopus" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus), I probably should have written the plural as either "octopuses" or "octopodes":
Ah, but "octopodes" is only the _nominative_ plural. You really should have written this:
Or is that a logo of two octoposi, one with four arms, and the other with three? Oh no, the poor octopodes!
Or, if the second sentence addresses the octopous, this would be correct:
Oh no, the poor octopoi!
Hope this helps. For your homework, what is the plural of "topos"?
According to the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, it is "topoi" (see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topos). Where did you find "octoposi?" I just searched online, but wasn't able to find a reference. -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^
Nice... I'm glad Microsoft sees the logic in supporting Haskell beyond just researchy stuff (which is also very important!!!) 2009/4/1 Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com>
Dear Haskell enthusiasts,
Now that the logo issue finally has been settled, it is time to select the proper Haskell mascot. As you are no doubt aware, Microsoft's involvement in Haskell means that we have moved from avoiding success at all cost to actively marketing the language, and any language striving for success is entirely dependent on a cute and distinctive mascot. Where would Perl be today without its camel?
Since the recent logo discussion has demonstrated once and for all the futility of attempting a democratic process in the Haskell community - to be quite honest, the elected logo looks like an error message from an IBM mainframe - I have decided to decide on a mascot myself.
So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Please ensure that this image accompanies any material published on the web or on paper.
Simon
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Oh just looked at the date stamps here.... nice one. Perhaps I should have a coffee now rather than later as I'm not fully awake. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:51 AM, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice... I'm glad Microsoft sees the logic in supporting Haskell beyond just researchy stuff (which is also very important!!!)
2009/4/1 Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com>
Dear Haskell enthusiasts,
Now that the logo issue finally has been settled, it is time to select the proper Haskell mascot. As you are no doubt aware, Microsoft's involvement in Haskell means that we have moved from avoiding success at all cost to actively marketing the language, and any language striving for success is entirely dependent on a cute and distinctive mascot. Where would Perl be today without its camel?
Since the recent logo discussion has demonstrated once and for all the futility of attempting a democratic process in the Haskell community - to be quite honest, the elected logo looks like an error message from an IBM mainframe - I have decided to decide on a mascot myself.
So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Please ensure that this image accompanies any material published on the web or on paper.
Simon
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I, for one, welcome our new Koala overlords. Thank you, Mr. Peyton-Koala, for this wonderful contribution to our community. -- ryan 2009/4/1 Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com>:
Dear Haskell enthusiasts,
Now that the logo issue finally has been settled, it is time to select the proper Haskell mascot. As you are no doubt aware, Microsoft's involvement in Haskell means that we have moved from avoiding success at all cost to actively marketing the language, and any language striving for success is entirely dependent on a cute and distinctive mascot. Where would Perl be today without its camel?
Since the recent logo discussion has demonstrated once and for all the futility of attempting a democratic process in the Haskell community - to be quite honest, the elected logo looks like an error message from an IBM mainframe - I have decided to decide on a mascot myself.
So I hereby declare the official Haskell mascot to be the koala, in the form of the image attached below. Please ensure that this image accompanies any material published on the web or on paper.
Simon
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Angelos Sphyris -
Anton van Straaten -
Benjamin L.Russell -
Bulat Ziganshin -
Colin Paul Adams -
David Leimbach -
Jean-Philippe Bernardy -
Jonathan Cast -
kahl＠cas.mcmaster.ca -
Ketil Malde -
Lennart Augustsson -
Marc A. Ziegert -
Michael Lesniak -
Ryan Ingram -
S.J.Thompson -
Simon Peyton-Jones -
Thomas Davie