Hi, Thanks to Sigbjorn Finne for making Hugs so easy to install on Windows. It would be great if O'Hugs http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~nordland/ohugs/win32/ were so easy. Acutally installing O'Hugs itself is straightforward, but O'Hugs has examples using the associated Tcl extension called Tix, whose homepage is http://www.tix.mne.com/ I don't have a compiler, so would like to find binaries for Tix which will work with Tcl 8.3, which is what O'Hugs seems to need. I downloaded the following from ftp://ftp.tix.mne.com/pub/tcl/temptix/ tix41p6.zip win41p6bin.zip and the "readme" file in the latter says "The files contained in this package: Tix4.1.0/win/tcl7.6/ Tix binaries compiled for Tcl 7.6 using BC++ 4.52 Tix4.1.0/win/tcl8.0/ Tix binaries compiled for Tcl 8.0b2 using BC++ 4.52 >> Do not mix these files with a wish.exe from Tcl8.0b1 << >> wish. You must install tcl8.0b2 on your machine first << >> before using these binaries. << " Am I out of luck unless I get a compiler? Thanks for your help, Christopher Sharpe