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Obj-C Classes
by Nikolas Mayr 31 May '10

31 May '10

Hello *, I was thinking about how much easier programming for the iPhone gets when using Haskell, especially when there are a lot of Apple's GUI libraries involved. Well, I have not come to a conclusion. But I figured programming in Obj-C should be shorter and easier anyway, so I came up with a tiny collection of Objective-C Classes that try to make some improvements and that only came to my mind because I have a little Haskell background. If you have suggestions, find errors, think that something else needs to be added, or want to feedback anything else, feel free to contact me. The project can be found at: http://github.com/thetrutz/objc4hs Best wishes Nikolas

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Re: [Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Work on Video Games in Haskell
by Ryan Trinkle 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi guys, I don't think this licensing issue will be a problem for us. It's not clear to me that our game violates this new term, and we certainly don't violate any of the principles Steve Jobs used to justify it. If Apple wants to reject our app, they already have a variety of excuses at their disposal, as they've demonstrated on many occasions. Frankly, it'd be their loss; Android is now the fastest-growing smartphone market, and we'll be more than happy to focus on it (and other friendlier markets) if Apple's not interested in having our product on their platform. Ryan Trinkle iPwn Studios On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH < allbery(a)ece.cmu.edu> wrote: > On May 26, 2010, at 04:14 , David Virebayre wrote: > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH >> <allbery(a)ece.cmu.edu> wrote: >> >>> You might want to reread that license agreement. Specifically: >>> >> >> Ah, yes. Ouch, that's abusive. >> Can they tell the difference though ? >> > > > I suspect GHC-generated code is fairly distinctive even as machine code. > But they don't have to go to that extent; all they have to do is use Google > to find this thread. :( > > > -- > brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery(a)kf8nh.com > system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery(a)ece.cmu.edu > electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH > > > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe(a)haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > >

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Re: [Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Work on Video Games in Haskell
by Daniel Peebles 26 May '10

26 May '10

Of course, given that they have no way of determining that short of asking for the source code (and hiring another thousand reviewers to read it) or applying static analysis tools with heuristics to the programs. I really doubt they do the latter, and the former is unrealistic. Most people seem to think the clause is there mostly to discourage large companies like Adobe from making generic tools to translate to the iPhone/iPad. It would be a lot of effort for Apple to actually enforce it strictly. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH < allbery(a)ece.cmu.edu> wrote: > On May 26, 2010, at 03:50 , David Virebayre wrote: > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Lyndon Maydwell <maydwell(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> As a side note, how is this project getting around the language >>> restrictions apple put in the developer license agreement? >>> >> >> From the project page : >>> >> >> This version uses Apple's official iPhone SDK as its back end compiler. >> > > You might want to reread that license agreement. Specifically: > > > "Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or > JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code > written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link > against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to > Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility > layer or tool are prohibited)" > > -- > brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery(a)kf8nh.com > system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery(a)ece.cmu.edu > electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH > > > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe(a)haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > >

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Work on Video Games in Haskell
by Ryan Trinkle 26 May '10

26 May '10

iPwn Studios is seeking Haskell developers for its debut title, BloodKnight. * No prior game development experience is required, but you must be very comfortable working in Haskell. * Compensation is negotiable; profit-sharing may be available in some cases. * To apply, or for more information, contact me at ryan(a)ipwnstudios.com. BloodKnight is an action-roleplaying game inspired by games like Diablo and Fallout. It is currently in the final stages of development, and will be released later this year on a variety of smartphone platforms, including iPhone and Android. iPwn Studios is a start-up company located in Boston, MA. We believe in giving back to the Haskell community, so we've open-sourced our ghc-iphone project, which allows GHC to produce binaries for the iPhone. Check it out at http://projects.haskell.org/ghc-iphone/. Ryan Trinkle iPwn Studios

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