Re: random library: Request for Carter Tazio Schonwald (@cartazio) to step down as maintainer with immediate effect

5 Jun 2020

      So you're saying that the fact that there's basically a civil war and
pandemic going on is no excuse to respond to e-mails. And you're calling
his behavior "tyrannous" when there are literal tyrants shooting tear gas
at civilians.

I gotta admit, this makes me disinclined to believe you're acting in good
faith. Sometimes shit happens to good people, and someone who can't show a
little compassion in these (pardon the cliche) unprecedented times is not
someone I want anywhere involved in package management.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 02:18 Fumiaki Kinoshita  wrote:
...
For example video call is not a great method for me because of the
following reasons:
* I'm not a good English speaker (especially I sometimes have difficulty
with colloquial American English)
* I live in a different timezone
* I prefer open communication
Although it's totally fine that you have a preference, I have no
doubt that core library maintenance should have more acceptance and
transparency.
I hesitated talking about this because issues might get
locked/edited/deleted, and the participants might get accused of being
"thick headed assholes" again like you did in
https://github.com/haskell/vector/issues/267#issuecomment-579588727, but
I must say:
Frankly, it feels extremely unfair that you ask us to focus on "technical
matters" (which excludes maintenance for some reason) only, while you
frequently use non-technical reasons (your diseases and the situation in
New York) as an excuse. Your asthma doesn't rub me in the wrong way; your
tyrannous behaviour does. With all due respect I suggest you not to use
CLC privileges to cope with your personal stresses.
2020年6月5日(金) 7:29 Carter Schonwald :
...
and more details to follow in a few days, i'm pretty fried, there was a
police shooting this morning 1 block from my aparment plus a whole mess of
stuff going on in lowermanhattan where i live most of the time this week
thats got me on edge and stressed out of my gourd.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 6:24 PM Carter Schonwald <
carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:
...
i've added a few folks at uploader/contributor bits, and this is
generally something all core libraries need. i really prefer discussion via
video call or voice chat or 1-1 neutral language..
yesterday i was pretty laid up with some pretty bad asthma etc and
allergy drugs, and I'm sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way .
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:50 AM Profpatsch  wrote:
...
chessai .  writes:
...
Yes, please contact me about these concerns. I am reachable via email
at
chessai1996@gmail.com.
Great, I’m looking forward to seeing this matter resolved swiftly.
I am a fan of discussing community matters openly, but everybody can
of course decide whether they want to speak up publicly or privately
talk to a trustee.
...
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 12:24 PM David Feuer 
wrote:
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...
I urge everyone to direct all further comments on this topic to the
current chair of the CLC. There is nothing to be gained from public
discussion of a "personnel" matter.
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 10:03 AM Profpatsch  wrote:
>
> I posted this comment on the thread of
> https://github.com/haskell/random/pull/62#issuecomment-638088258
>
> Since it was deleted and the comment thread locked by Carter,
> I am escalating this request to the mailing list, where it cannot be
> deleted.
>
> Profpatsch  writes:
>
> > @cartazio Please take even a fleeting look at
>
https://github.com/idontgetoutmuch/random/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed,
...
...
> notice the amount of discussion and the timeline.
> >
> > This is the full-time work of a team of half a dozen of experts,
> probably breaching one man-year of effort, easily.
> > It cannot just be discarded out of hand.
> >
> > I have been following the discussions (spread over mailinglists,
issue
> trackers and elsewhere), and I propose you hand over maintainership
of
> `random` as a base package.
>
> A parallel issue with relevant discussion can be found at
> https://github.com/haskell/random/pull/61
>
> I am writing this email from my personal account, because I fear for
> the health of the Haskell ecosystem, and I think Carter’s behaviour
is
> extremely detrimental to it.
>
> I think a lot of other people feel the same way, so I encourage you
to
> add your voice publicly.
>
> ~ Profpatsch
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Re: random library: Request for Carter Tazio Schonwald (@cartazio) to step down as maintainer with immediate effect

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